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post #9016 of 10970
pick up new d4s, going to buy 6 boxes for me and the homies in the new couple of weeks
post #9017 of 10970
Had a nice Sig1 after Xmas dinner on back patio with some El Dorado 15yo.
post #9018 of 10970
Smoking a CCE with coffee right now...'10 I think. Good as always.
post #9019 of 10970
I am new to two days old.

On Thursday, a client of mine (I am a paralegal) won a very large settlement. Told my attorney he thought I won him the case. He purchased me be a box of cigars on his last trip to cuba. He travels every three months.

I have been reading up on storage and need some direction. He gave me his humidor to have, but said I needed to read up on them.
I am interested in learning all about cigars, storage, and tastes. Does anyone have a website I can read up on? Also, where to purchase cigars? I live in Orange County, California, but I found some online retailers in EU that guaranties shipping of cubans.

Lastly, he advised that when he travels to Cuba in March 2013 he will pick up any box of cigars I tell him to buy.
I want to make sure the next time we talk, I have a clue of what I am talking about.

He also offered me a job, but said I first needed to complete all the lose ends of the case. This job could open many doors for me, so I need to get moving on this.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

post #9020 of 10970
Most recommend 70% humidity and 70 degrees. If it is a modest humidor I would get a digital gauge, test it for accuracy and use it ahead of whatever gauge is in it now.
post #9021 of 10970
Thanks for the advice.
post #9022 of 10970
post #9023 of 10970
Originally Posted by jet View Post


Hmmmm... good or bad?
post #9024 of 10970
If jet has a suggestion on how to store your cigars, take his advice as he regularly ages cigars to my knowledge.
post #9025 of 10970
Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post

If jet has a suggestion on how to store your cigars, take his advice as he regularly ages cigars to my knowledge.

I will, I am just waiting patiently.

post #9026 of 10970
My comment was in regards to the box of esplendidos, people don't normally gift $600 boxes of cigars like that. Whether or not the guy is wealthy/travels to cuba etc is not the point, we do not know the extent of his cuban cigar knowledge to accurately assess the provenance/legitimacy of that box. Many people who claim to be well versed are sold counterfeits even in cuba as the market is tremendous for these. I'm not saying your box is fake, I'd have to see more pictures (ie the underside, the cigars, the box open etc) and see how it compares to my box. I've met many people in orange county who claim to be regular cc smokers, one guy even sells them on the side and I found out his favorite cigar is a fake.

As far as storage I don't really follow the norm but the highest rh I'd store them would be 65% though I keep mine at 62% because they are more flavorful in this range, I rarely have to touch them up and the smoke is lush. Non cuban cigars are better kept at higher 60s and the often cited norm of 70. My temperature varies a lot and people will argue colder is better, slows down the aging process, etc but it really depends on what your ultimate objective is. My temps vary b/w 70 in winter and 78 in the summertime, these come from a tropical climate so I don't mind the warmer temps. People will argue they are more prone to beetle outbreaks but I believe that is a function of rh and temperature combined. Get some 65% heartfelt industries beads and keep the cigars in the coldest part of the house in the shade.
post #9027 of 10970
I don't want to seem presumptuous or that I'm a know-it-all, but the majority of people I've talked to that were knowledgable about cigars, and the majority of people on cigar forums, say that 70% is too high for cigars, especially cubans. I keep all of my cigars at 70 degrees Fahrenheit, but at 65% relative humidity. Never have burn issues. I have had issues at cigar stores/lounges where the cigars have been overhumidified and led to plugged cigars, draw issues, burn issues, etc.

But first things first regarding your humidor:

First, do the dollar bill test to see how the seal is on the box. Here's a link

Then, if you have a good seal, then follow the instructions here to properly season your humidor. It's pretty easy.

Next purchase some humidification beads. The two most popular are Shilala beads and Heartfelt beads.

Then purchase a digital hygrometer (this Xikar is what I have), and do the salt test on it... Or if you're lazy like me, buy a Bovada Calibration kit and throw your hygrometer in there.

Once you have all that stuff, you're good to go. You'll only need to occasionally wet your beads with distilled water (or use the indirect approach they advocate over at Shilala) and you'll be at proper relative humidity. Then throw your cigars in there and call it a day. Depending on how old your Esplendidos are, they may need more time to mature, but that's a decision you'll have to make by smoking them.
post #9028 of 10970
Sounds good to me on the aging, I will dial back mine as well.
post #9029 of 10970
You'll find the cigars much more flavorful and enjoyable to smoke especially if you retrohale. I'm always left a little disappointed (though grateful) when one of my cigar buddies gifts me a smoke because I know how high he keeps his rh at, probably around 70. I can bite down on the end and the cigar just feels damp and it'll just get smashed without cracking, far too wet for me. When I bite down gently on the end and I hear a slight crackle, it's perfect. You get an excellent draw (bc the leaves aren't so swollen from the moisture), smoke volume, great burn without having to constantly touch it up (this is also a test if you're cigars are too wet, you keep having to touch them up because they go out all the time, you can also tell by the the color/depth of the burn line of dry vs wet tobacco near the ash), and most importantly flavor. I've smoked great cigars that were bland because they were too wet. When you dial it back from 70 to 65 you risk nothing and gain everything. I've seen people on cigar forums do this and become ecstatic with the results. Now dial them back to 62 or dry box them for a couple of days and you're talking my language. They become almost too flavorful. You want to try to achieve the perfect balance of flavor with lack of harshness because if they get too dry, harshness enters the equation and flavor diminishes. Always wait a minimum of 30 days (now I wait 90) before trying one that you just receive from transit to let them acclimate and settle in their new environment.
post #9030 of 10970
What I can tell you is his holdings are in the hundreds of millions.
Owns real estate in LA, FL, NY, Prague, and other places.

I took pictures of everything so I hope this answers your questions.
I know the guy has a large collection of cigars, but I have gone over his credit card statements.

Here are the pictures I took.

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