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post #8671 of 10970
Nah not once a day, I'm a college student, other things take up the time I would devote to smoking. Probably somewhere around 2-3 times a week if I would estimate. More in the spring, summer, and fall, less in the winter.

But yeah, I wouldn't define once a week as often at all either.

and re: travel humidor, no one anywhere ever notices it or what it is. I like it better that way too. People either assume it's just a funky aluminum box or a metal travel humidor. The elastic to keep the cigars in place is kind of a bitch, fucks up wrappers more than I would like.
post #8672 of 10970
damn son, think im going to cop a zero that's your rimowas size to go with my bigger halli

had 3 cigars today and probably will have 3 tomorrow, going to be hot as fuck so headed down to newport beach with the homies to cool off
post #8673 of 10970
cusano 18 robusto
post #8674 of 10970
Originally Posted by jet View Post

damn son, think im going to cop a zero that's your rimowas size to go with my bigger halli
had 3 cigars today and probably will have 3 tomorrow, going to be hot as fuck so headed down to newport beach with the homies to cool off

Damn man, take it easy.

post #8675 of 10970

The tradeshow was insane. I have smoked about 40 cigars since thursday. A lot of big things dropping. DE Cuenca y Blanco was great, the papa fritas were deceptively good for something that's not technically a premium. Two of my new favorites are the La Sirena "Merlion" line, which is a total departure from the original blended by Don Pepin, but incredible. Its a lot like the ecuadorian wrap La Aurora BME toro, but in the smaller sizes it comes across more floral and a bit more citrus, with a decent side of red pepper spice. The new Fernando Leon's blow the Guillermo's out of the water (for me) despite that having been one of my favorite Dominican cigars. Pete from Tatuaje is working on a new line called L'Atelier which is showing a lot of promise, and the La Duena is rapidly becoming a favorite (the lancero was unbelievable). Keep an eye out for a few new things from Herklotz over at Nat Sherman too, I haven't had a chance to smoke his samples yet (waiting for my palette to recover from this weekend) but he never fails to impress.

post #8676 of 10970
Think I'm going to get some stoogies for the cool weather. Cool and smooth smoking. Suggestions?
post #8677 of 10970
post #8678 of 10970
Okay, okay, be culturally sensitive. Us Canadians like to add extra vowels.
post #8679 of 10970
Ah had no idea you were there so I can recommend you some CCs.

Pick up one of each-
bolivar belicoso fino
hoyo de monterrey epicure 2
montecristo 5 (for a smaller cigar)
hoyo de monterrey du gourmet
bolivar petit corona (smaller cigar)
partagas serie d4

Iconic smokes you can't go wrong and recent examples I hear are shining (the d4 will need more age to be good but you can still enjoy now).

No idea on non cuban front.
post #8680 of 10970
Cuba is more full bodied, no? DR for something mild?
post #8681 of 10970
Nah, there are cubans across the entire range from mild to full bodied. Same with DR, Nic, etc.

I can't help you on cuban cigars, but from a non-cuban standpoint, the La Flor Dominicana Double Claro (which I had recently) was good for a medium bodied cigar. The La Aroma de Cuba is another decent medium bodied cigar. Oliva Connecticuts are good mild cigars, as are Ashton Cabinets (natural and maduro), Fuente Rosado Sungrowns, and Room 101 Connecticuts. They are all also smooth smoking cigars, no pepper or spice to them, if you're into that.

For medium bodied, and perhaps some spice/pepper to it, my favorite non-cuban cigar is the Don Pepin Garcia blue label lancero. Tatuajes, Liga Privadas, and Viajes are also good with this too. Liga Privada Dirty Rats and L40s were good the last times I smoked them. The Tatuaje black label petit lancero is decent as well. For a medium body and earthy flavor, Padron Churchills are another favorite of mine.
post #8682 of 10970
I think mild cigars are a waste of time for novices, I think to get anything really from the experience would require cigars that are at least a touch under medium body with some kind of subtle notes that come through with the brightness of younger smokes though they are tougher to detect early on, the cigar can still be enjoyable. You can't go wrong with the examples I gave you and it's possible to get full flavor without the nicotine rush in the du gourmet which is a fantastic smoke. I hesitate to say montecristos because they're kind of just bland milk chocolate/coffee notes which are boring/uninteresting to me but I look for roundness and complexity. You're not going to get many power sticks from cuba though there are some most range in the medium to medium full. In fact I'd rank all non cubans as power pepper sticks.
post #8683 of 10970
Re: light cigars, I agree with jet--Hoyo Epicure#2 and Juan Lopez #1/#2/petit corona can be lighter side of medium to medium, but with enough flavor complexity to attract seasoned cigar smokers. The only true light-bodied cigar that I can think of would be a Quai d'Orsay, specifically their corona.

And the only cigar that I can think of with overwhelming/NC-like power is the Romeo Cazadores.
post #8684 of 10970
last night another Romeo y Julieta Cedros de Luxe No. 2
post #8685 of 10970
Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Cuba is more full bodied, no? DR for something mild?

This is a common misconsception. While many Cubans are full bodied, it is not because they are Cuban. The strength depends on a) the individual tobacco Strains b)the location of the leaf on the plant (sunlight can have a major affect. the Ligero leaves, the top 3rd of the plant, are, all else being equal, stronger than the lower leaves) c)how the leaves are aged and stored. The Maduro wrapper, for instance, has been what we call fermented. It is stored in large collections that expose the leaves to tremendous pressure and heat, basically cooking it. In doing so, it releases more of the natural sugars (think "burnt molasses" as one of my coworkers says) and a more earthy flavor. Often, but not necessarily, these are fuller-bodied and stronger. The leaves are cycled to even out the treatment over the aging process, the amount of time and heat varying from manufacturer to manufacturer, blend to blend. To give you an idea, the Puro D'oro are a Dominican puro. A puro is made from a binder, filler, wrapper all from the same location of origin (The D.R. in this case). The Davidoff Millenium Blends are a dominican cigar, but the wrapper is grown in Ecuador from using a proprietary seed of Cuban Origin. These are on the Fuller side, but not as full as the Puro D'oros. At the same time, a friend of mine brought back some Cubans from the DR. They were hand rolled by a small artisan, not one of the big names, and was a a very light and flavorful smoke. The Davidoff Thousand Series are light (but very flavorful), but use an Ecuadorian Wrapper. These are the strongest in the Davidoff White Label line. La Flor Dominicana (again, the DR) makes some very full smokes. Their standard lines include Ligeros, and a few double ligeros (which are stronger and more flavorful). Avo, a Davidoff Brand, has quite the range, but in terms of body they fall in the light to the Medium/Full range. Don Pepin Garcia, the famous blender, known for his own brand, as well as blending work for Tatuaje, working with Pete Johnson, Ashton, as well as his work in Cuba before his defection, has made quite a name making medium to full Nicaraguan Sticks with a spicy/sweet flavor. I just finished the My Father li Bijou Churchill, which was a brand by Jaime Garcia, meant as a tribute to his Father and his father's cigars.
Historically speaking, Cubans have been the fullest body cigars, and the best in the world. However, over the last 30 to 40 years, Nicaragua, the DR, Ecuador, etc... have developed a Cigar Infrastructure. With increasing Political stability, many tobacco planters and blenders were able to establish secure brands and have perfected them over the last few decades, creating sticks of increasing quality and hte kind of logistical and political infrastructure that allowed these regions to develop and export these products, which previous they could not. As cigar tobacco (black tobacco) was best suited for Cuba, it took years of selective breeding to created strains capable of growing elsewhere with certain traits. This ongoing process, and through the development of shipping, infrastructure, and so on, these regions capable of growing tobacco began to start doing so on an ever larger scale, and to export them to domestic and international markets. Currently, these products can increasingly challenge the quality, strengths, and subtleties that previously could only exist in Cuban Cigars. It is important, I feel, that we see Cubans as one of many cigar styles. That is, with of all the Cigar makers in the world, we recognize that Cubans are not objectively the best, but rather we celebrate the amazing diversity of this Golden Age of Cigars and view Cubans as one of many examples, with their own special characteristics and feel that makes them Cuban. I have increasingly come in contact with Individuals who still insists that they only smoke Cubans (I am not talking about tourists from Overseas who have not had access to the others, but rather the kind of people who make the declaration as if they are somehow better than I am-they annoy me), and it saddens me, for the have not given themselves the opportunity to expose their palate to a seemingly infinite number of possibilites.

Full Disclosure--I work for Davidoff.
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