Originally Posted by jet
I don't claim to be the expert, but the gallery seems to be disagreeing with you.
Originally Posted by dpatsil
Agreed. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. NC's not benefitting from additional box age makes no sense unless, and I'm not saying this is the case, they are cooking the tobacco. They should benefit from age and I have had very good aged NC's. There are good CC's right off the truck but for my palate, most have a tannic taste that does not agree with me. This happened the other day when I cracked a box of PSD4 from LSO Feb08. The blend was right but they were just harsh in that young way that D4's can be like. In one year or even less, they are going to be off the hook. I have a couple of boxes of '01 La Punta's that were great a few years back. They have faded to nothing. I'm afraid they have simply expired. I should have smoked them when they were really tasty but I stupidly thought they will just continue to improve. When they taste great, hit the box hard because they may not get better or even stay the same.
What do you think, then, when you hear of "amazing" pre-embargo or even pre-war cigars? Are they bound to be lifeless duds, or are people really paying enormous sums for something worthwhile? What is the average shelf life of a box of cigars, in your opinion?
Originally Posted by PartagasIV
I don't want to break up the argument but I will say that since 2006, Habanos have been much more approachable young. Theories abound online whether it's curing, blending, cooking or all of the above, but they are smoking pretty well for the youth. BTW, I am smoking a robusto-sized Tat Reserva--actually pretty decent. Have you guys tried these?
Holymadness, as to your choices:
-Trinidad Robusto T is a very good smoke. I picked up two boxes of the first month's production. Better than the robo extra, although I have limited experience with that.
-Party shorts are good--but I like them with a few years, they seem one-dimensional to me until then. Just started smoking my 06 cab. For similar money, I love the Partagas PC Especiale, and boxes of '99 Partagas Tres Petit Coronas are still available. They are dope.
-RA SSC's are excellent. 07 boxes are still around. I know a guy that picked up about 10 boxes he likes them so much
-Bolivar CJ's are one of my staples, and the second box of Habanos I ever bought. Tons of complexity and strength for the size. Tastes like a mini CE or CG.
-SLR DC's are great, but it's hard to commit to a cab. I have not yet. SLR Serie A (08's) are great as well--very leathery, some sweetness, very balanced smokes. Don't like the Regios as much.
-El principes are nice, but I have limited experience with SC's. Have a box of La Puntas and La Fuerzas that don't do much for me, even as the first cigars of the day. Oficios are great.
Off the beaten path--tons of good stuff. If you hate the Monte #2, pick up some Especiales or Esp. #2's. It's like a distilled Monte in a thin ring gauge. Partagas Serie du Conn. are excellent although discontinued. My fav is the #2. All are thin RG as well. Pick up a couple Punch PC del Punch, Partagas 898's...08 Upmann Mag46 as well as 08 Upmann Conn. #1's are excellent. And the Bolivar CE is probably my favorite cigar, hands down. Discontinued in 50 cab but still around in DB of 25. 08 Partagas Lusi's are also good.
I just rambled my tits off, have a good weekend fellow smokers.
Exactly the feedback I was looking for. Thanks for taking the time to type this out, and I will add a few more cigars to my list.
Originally Posted by Girardian
This thread omits the very fresh window -- but it's very difficult to get cigars from the roller's table ... unless you've visited Cueto, Jorge, Mons, Santos and others on La Isla ...
In all seriousness, I've had plenty of young Habanos (within that "2 year" period) that were fantastic, and from periods in which I do not believe there was any tobacco cooking.
Unfortunately, this has yet to happen. One day!