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post #181 of 9849
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Originally Posted by bdeuce22 View Post
which fuente?? i have never have good luck with these, yet i always seem to buy a few sticks every once in a while. i always get uneven draws.

i do have some fuente opus Xs waiting to be smoked. i think i will light one of them up when i move into my newly purchased house in a few weeks.

I spoke too soon. It was an unbanded Fuente, with just the A.Fuente on the cellophane. anyway, I said that only about 10 minutes into the smoke. Pretty much right after I finished typing that, it started burning unevenly, taste got really poor, hard to stay lit, all kinds of problems with it. It was enjoyable those first 10 minutes though! haha
post #182 of 9849
I am glad I am not the only one who has had bad luck with fuentes. I had one that literally burned sideways. That wouldve made a great picture.
post #183 of 9849
Lookin forward to this order comin in tomorrow:

1x Punch Gran Puro Rancho (robusto)
1x Rocky Patel OSG Corona
1x Romeo Y Julieta Bully (robusto)
1x Sol Cubano Churchill Connecticut
1x RP Signature Series 500 RP Signature Series 500 Turo
post #184 of 9849
Had a Partagas Short for my pre-dinner smoke and a Por Larranaga Corona for after-dinner. The volume of smoke with each draw on the Partagas was amazing for such a small vitola and stayed tasty till it was nearly burning my fingers. The Por Larranaga was a work of art, mild but complex, and left me with a delightful, nutty aftertaste.
post #185 of 9849
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Originally Posted by Nantucket Red View Post
Had a Partagas Short for my pre-dinner smoke and a Por Larranaga Corona for after-dinner. The volume of smoke with each draw on the Partagas was amazing for such a small vitola and stayed tasty till it was nearly burning my fingers. The Por Larranaga was a work of art, mild but complex, and left me with a delightful, nutty aftertaste.

First cigar my gf's dad gave me was the PL Corona.... Ahhhmay-ZING!
post #186 of 9849
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Originally Posted by kwilkinson View Post
Lookin forward to this order comin in tomorrow:

1x Punch Gran Puro Rancho (robusto)
1x Rocky Patel OSG Corona
1x Romeo Y Julieta Bully (robusto)
1x Sol Cubano Churchill Connecticut
1x RP Signature Series 500 RP Signature Series 500 Turo

the patel OSG and ryj bully are great

rocky patel may be my favorite line with CAO as a close second.
post #187 of 9849
tonight i am thinking of either a CAO brazilia gol or a CAO black vr. both are great.

i am expecting a shipment of padilla obsidians and 8&11s along with some pepin blues. cant wait
post #188 of 9849
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Originally Posted by bdeuce22 View Post
tonight i am thinking of either a CAO brazilia gol or a CAO black vr. both are great.

i am expecting a shipment of padilla obsidians and 8&11s along with some pepin blues. cant wait

I actually just tried a CAO Brazilia for the first time a few days ago. While I didn't think it was bad, I found it to be a bit on the bland side. I liked the mocha quality and subtle spice but it just didn't offer enough flavor and bite for my tastes. That said, I think it'd make a wonderful beginner's cigar and the price is pretty low.
post #189 of 9849
Fuck, I think I just smoked the worst cigar ever. Here's the abridged review I wrote on my website...

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La Primadora
If I were to choose one word to describe this cigar, it would be "bad." Just bad. Truth be told, its borderline offensive with how bad it is. In search of a second cigar for the roundup and working with only a limited budget, I stumbled upon La Primadora. It measures a massive 8 1/2". The construction is quite easily the shoddiest I have ever encountered (Mind you, I have even bought cheapo "Cubans" at a convenience store in Windsor just because I thought it was funny). It is riddled with uneven bumps, discoloration, and veining all over. It produces a dark ash when lit. That alone should be an immediate red flag. A dark ash indicates that the soil in which the tobacco was grown lacked certain key nutrients. Once you sift beyond the staleness, the taste is both oddly sweet and mildly spicy. Part of what made the taste so disagreeable was that the cigar continuously needed relit. Not only that but maintaining the cigar was a full time job. The canoeing was just awful. Given the length of the cigar and extent of canoeing, it began to look like a scale model of a canoe that had been set aflame - the taste was much the same. Epicureans, avoid. Grade: F
post #190 of 9849
I hope no-one will hold it against me if these questions have already been answered further back in the thread, but I'm disinclined to read every single page on the mere chance. If so, I'll gladly edit my post and just go read the answer, if you'll only let me know it's there to be found.

I was just wondering whether any of you could help me with a few questions, as I'm still a relative newcomer to cigars.

So far, but with one exception, I've only smoked the cigars amongst the darkest that I could find, since, as a long-time pipe smoker and fan of English, Balkan and Oriental blends, I know that I prefer heavy flavors, rich complexity, great body and nicotine content in my tobacco. My first cigar ever was an Onyx maduro, which I thought rather good. Recently I had a Patel, though the variety I cannot recall, which I felt outclassed the Onyx I had tried. I also smoked a gigantic cigar from the Ghurka brand, which was my second-favorite to date. Those were the only three brands that I had tried until recently when, on a whim, I bought and smoked an Arturo-Fuente Hemmingway Short Story, solely on the basis of my fondness for the author it is named for -- and loved it, despite its being the lightest colored cigar that I had yet smoked.

Now I wonder whether my preconceptions were completely inaccurate regarding the relation of a cigar's color (both in wrapper and filler) to its flavor, body and complexity. Everything I had read before my purchases informed that it was only the darkest cigars that I would enjoy - but I've found the flavors (of the few that I've tried) tending to be rather single-note in comparison to that AF H:SS. I've not tried any other of the lighter-colored cigars, however, so I suppose that it is possible that the AF H:SS is simply unique amongst its peers in this regard.

My first question is simply just to ask for a more accurate explanation of the relation of the color of a cigar's tobacco to its flavor, body and complexity, assuming that the information I have been relying upon is incorrect?

Secondly, of the four cigars that I have named, what were your opinions of them? How do they compare to the wealth of cigars that you have sampled?

Are the scores in the magazines very useful as guides to purchases? I can't help but notice that almost everything scores at least an 85, making matters difficult.

I still have some difficulty lighting my cigar evenly, despite going around the rim slowly with a long wooden match. Will I find matters any easier if I get hold of some cedar sheet? Is a car's cigarette lighter at all useful, since at least the area of the burner is uniform - or is the flavor unsettled by the extreme heat?

Finally, do you prefer any particular method of cutting your cigar (straight cut, hole punch cut, cat's eye, etc.)? What brands or models of cutter have you found best? At the moment, my cutter is a $1.50 job, and only rarely fails to destroy the cigar's cap end.

Sorry for the deluge of rookie questions, thanks for having read!
post #191 of 9849
while i am no expert in tobaccos, you are not incorrect with the color vs. flavor/complexity argument. tobacco leaf wrappers are from all over the world, US, Honduras, Cameroon, and the list goes on. each leaf has its own characteristics that make it unique from one to the next. personally, i am with you in that i prefer darker cigars. typically, they have a heavier flavor which i like.

the 4 cigars you have tried are all excellent cigars. the onyx is a great cigar with a maduro wrapper. it is a great bang for your buck cigar. gurhkas are great as well, except stay away from the expedition line. they taste like you are smoking wet grass. my favorite from gurhka are the napalese warrior. i have always had bad luck with AFs. the burn on them is so uneven and un-enjoyable that i get pissed and throw it away. hand downs, patels are one of my favorite lines out there. try the 1990 vintage. if you are game for a very dark, rich cigar, try the patel edge.

i never really follow magazine ratings when buying cigars. i typically go to my store pick a few out, then if i like them go and buy a box online. its way cheaper to buy online than in a brick and mortar store.

i know alot of enthusiasts use matches but i am never in a place where i want to dick around with matches, so i stock up on butane lighters at walmart. for 3.50 you cant beat them and i won't get pissed at myself if i lose one.

nothing wrong with 1.50 cigar cutters but if you are looking to splurge, i recommend this for on the go or this for home use
post #192 of 9849
RatherAnOddBall---- Bdeuce is right in everything he has said.

My personal preference is to just cut off the cap. I don't enjoy the hole punches.

And re: the magazine ratings. Take them with a grain of salt. They are just like your GQ or any other magazine. You will see a review of a cigar that is given a 92 perhaps, and 20 pages behind that, you will see an ad that the cigar company bought. As in everything, it is driven by dollars.

So when reading the magazine ratings, go for the more neutral things that are said, like full bodied, or, triple maduro, and that kind of thing, and do not fall for the "This is the cigar of the century! You have to have one now!" reviews.

Also, like B said, it's a great idea to buy singles at a nice shop. That's how I got started, I just went to a store and basically said "1 of everything please." As you work your way through it, you'll find exactly what you like and using that information can find more cigars you may like.

Keeping a journal like the one found here may help, I know it helped me. ftp://ftp.cigargroup.com/pub/journal.pdf
post #193 of 9849
So how many cigars a week do you guys smoke?
post #194 of 9849
I went from smoking one or two a year to smoking one or two a day, which is a pace I can't really afford to keep up.
post #195 of 9849
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Originally Posted by gnatty8 View Post
So how many cigars a week do you guys smoke?
about 1-2 per week.....i hardly ever light one up during the weekdays just weekends
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