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good morning - where does the wieght sit?

post #1 of 61
Thread Starter 
ok, when you are doing a "good morning" at the lowest point, is the weight on your neck or shoulders? how about the highest point? I have been keeping it on my neck (not shoulders) cause if I started on my shoulders it would roll, which struck me as a bad thing. on the other hand, it is a lot of weight to have on my neck.

what do you say?
post #2 of 61
When you are doing good mornings you should keep the weight on your traps, not your shoulders. There is a difference. As you lower the weight and are bending from the waist your head should remain up. Be sure you are not rounding your back and your knees are bent.
post #3 of 61
NOT THE NECK. Keep the weight sitting on top of your traps like you are squatting. Try and keep your chest up and head forward to maintain lordosis.
post #4 of 61
good mornings are a pretty advanced lift and i wouldn't recommend them. the chance for injury is really high. stick to deadlifts for your back. maybe some back extensions if you really want.
post #5 of 61
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thanks
post #6 of 61
I would have to say that if you are not advanced enough to do good mornings than you should also stay away from dead lifts. IMHO they are just as advanced as good mornings even though they look much simpler. Form needs to be spot on doing deads because as you increase weight risk of injury with bad form increases drastically.
post #7 of 61
Why would you do good mornings for your back...
post #8 of 61
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Originally Posted by Johnny_5 View Post
I would have to say that if you are not advanced enough to do good mornings than you should also stay away from dead lifts. IMHO they are just as advanced as good mornings even though they look much simpler. Form needs to be spot on doing deads because as you increase weight risk of injury with bad form increases drastically.

thanks -
post #9 of 61
I don't see how deads could be harder then squats and most lifter sure do (and therefore learn squats).
post #10 of 61
deads are not that advanced. they are easier than squats. just use light weights for the first month or so and get your form down.
post #11 of 61
Globe,

watch this video discussing hight vs. low bar position for squats. It's applicable for GMs.

I prefer a low bar - rolled down to my rear delts. Just feels more stable to me. Either way, the bar should not be one your neck.

Good luck,

lefty
post #12 of 61
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Globe,

watch this video discussing hight vs. low bar position for squats. It's applicable for GMs.

I prefer a low bar - rolled down to my rear delts. Just feels more stable to me. Either way, the bar should not be one your neck.

Good luck,

lefty

excellent, thanks
post #13 of 61
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Originally Posted by lefty View Post
Globe,

watch this video discussing hight vs. low bar position for squats. It's applicable for GMs.

I prefer a low bar - rolled down to my rear delts. Just feels more stable to me. Either way, the bar should not be one your neck.

Good luck,

lefty

ok, but this raises another question, I guess. I have a good position with my squats, I am very comfortable with a high bar position, and have done that for years, to the extent it is second nature.

with the "good morning", the motion of bending forward brings the wieght forward. should I be pulling with my hands to keep the weight down? or am I going to far foreward in my bend if the weight rolls?

at this point, I think I need to grab one of the guys at the gym to discuss my technique.
post #14 of 61
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Originally Posted by globetrotter View Post
ok, but this raises another question, I guess. I have a good position with my squats, I am very comfortable with a high bar position, and have done that for years, to the extent it is second nature.

with the "good morning", the motion of bending forward brings the wieght forward. should I be pulling with my hands to keep the weight down? or am I going to far foreward in my bend if the weight rolls?

at this point, I think I need to grab one of the guys at the gym to discuss my technique.

You need to keep the bar off your neck for obvious reasons. If in the high bar position you are dropping forward enough that you're fighting to keep the bar from rolling onto your neck I would lower the bar.

In retrospect, I use a lower position than indicated on the video as I tend to go low, but I never feel as if I'm struggling to keep the bar in position. It does take me a little maneuvering to get the bar into position though.

Hope that helps.

lefty
post #15 of 61
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You need to keep the bar off your neck for obvious reasons. If in the high bar position you are dropping forward enough that you're fighting to keep the bar from rolling onto your neck I would lower the bar.

In retrospect, I use a lower position than indicated on the video as I tend to go low, but I never feel as if I'm struggling to keep the bar in position. It does take me a little maneuvering to get the bar into position though.

Hope that helps.

lefty

I think the first thing that I will try is to load from the squat rack - I used a set (non-olympic) 100 pound barbell that I lifted from the floor and then raised over my head and placed on my shoulders this week - squat racks are in tight demand in my gym, and I wanted to leave my rack loaded with the wieght I was squating, which was obviously more than what I wanted to try "good morninging". what I will try this week will be to use an olympic bar from the squat rack, and I'll ask one of the gym employees to watch my form to judge if I am bending too far forward.

thanks
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