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post #31 of 69
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post
I wear collar stays the first time I wear a new shirt because they are already in. Never thereafter.

I don't wear new shirts before laundering, I find that among other things, the collar points stick up (ie are slightly raised off the shirt).

Cordovan
post #32 of 69
I wear collar stays, but my collars are very soft (with a natural arc) and the stays are long and quite narrow.
post #33 of 69
I'm addicted to Tyrwhitt's brass stays. Always wear them -- even without a tie.
post #34 of 69
No stays for me, at least not 95 percent of the time. Life's better that way.
post #35 of 69
LOL - not so long ago, people were arguing the benefit of MOP vs bone vs plastic vs whatever stays. Now, from this thread, it seems like all of the sudden, everyone decided they don't do collar stays any more.... Too pedestrian, I guess. I'm not one of the cool kids, I wear stays every day, with or without tie.
post #36 of 69
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post
LOL - not so long ago, people were arguing the benefit of MOP vs bone vs plastic vs whatever stays. Now, from this thread, it seems like all of the sudden, everyone decided they don't do collar stays any more.... Too pedestrian, I guess. I'm not one of the cool kids, I wear stays every day, with or without tie.

Try it without. Just to see what happens. If a stiff like me can warm to it, who knows?
post #37 of 69
I've tried going without stays on some spread collars and wasn't thrilled with the outcome. Collars come with stays for a reason - they need them.
post #38 of 69
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
Try it without. Just to see what happens. If a stiff like me can warm to it, who knows?

Here! I just removed my brass stays. I feel strangely free and liberated... I'm liking this !

Edit: wait... the points are curling up on my shoulder blades, the collar is now flat as a pancake... What have I done?!
post #39 of 69
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post
Here! I just removed my brass stays. I feel strangely free and liberated... I'm liking this !

SF is just SO revolutionary !
post #40 of 69
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
I think your collars have roughly the same spread/angle and point length as mine. Actually, one of your posts partially inspired this, when you wrote that Matuazzo frowned at you when you asked about stays. I figured, if our collars are close to the same shape, and she thinks his don't need stays, what the hell.

Yeah, I was a little concerned at the time. But her face filled with such unmistakable disdain at the notion that I didn't dare press it. Amongst other things she doesn't like, IIRC: rounded French cuffs, plackets, and letting you pick your own collar.

Fortunately, I liked the results. Unfortunately, I don't get to use the mother-of-pearl collar stays my fiancee gave me anymore.
post #41 of 69
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
I have stopped wearing them.

First, I forgot them on a trip. The shirt seemed fine without them. Later, I deliberately did not wear them to an occasion that was somewhat informal. I liked the way my collar naturally rolled. Then, taking a huge risk (JKB, are you listening?) I wore a white shirt without stays to an important business meeting. The meeting was a success.

So no more collar stays. Is this like the SF equivalent of bra burning?

One day, and that day will come, you'll look down and find yourself face to face with a Columbo-style flyaway collar point. And then you'll come back home.
post #42 of 69
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post
Yeah, I was a little concerned at the time. But her face filled with such unmistakable disdain at the notion that I didn't dare press it. Amongst other things she doesn't like, IIRC: rounded French cuffs, plackets, and letting you pick your own collar.

Fortunately, I liked the results. Unfortunately, I don't get to use the mother-of-pearl collar stays my fiancee gave me anymore.

I like plackets, but I agree about rounded French cuffs.

Also, as a general principle, I like to choose my own collar.
post #43 of 69
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
Also, as a general principle, I like to choose my own collar.

Just the same with her if you are going to end up with the same collar that you have already chosen for yourself.

Cordovan
post #44 of 69
It's very fashionable on SF to talk about collar roll, post quasi-pornograhpic images of rolling collars, etc. There are obviously differences in collars - some roll better and some worse -- but it seems like no amount of tiny hand stitches by little old ladies in italy is going to get you a good "roll" if you send your collar to the cleaners and they just press it flat. Am I missing something, or is your mode of washing, drying and ironing/pressing a variable of equal importance to anything intrinsic in the shirt?
post #45 of 69
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Originally Posted by riverrun View Post
It's very fashionable on SF to talk about collar roll, post quasi-pornograhpic images of rolling collars, etc. There are obviously differences in collars - some roll better and some worse -- but it seems like no amount of tiny hand stitches by little old ladies in italy is going to get you a good "roll" if you send your collar to the cleaners and they just press it flat. Am I missing something, or is your mode of washing, drying and ironing/pressing a variable of equal importance to anything intrinsic in the shirt?

Fair point. I have a good local laundry that charges less than usorious rates to hand press my shirts.
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