Going TIE-less, is there a stigma against this on SF? - Page 4

Really? I had a 28oz Porterhouse at the Palmin this last Friday.

For lunch.

For my salad, I had, uhm, shrimp cocktail.

- B

Eleganza . . . needs the pocket square though. - M

I'm originally from the South, where bow ties are still perfectly acceptable. I wore them often in college. In NYC, unless you are a writer, a painter, a partner at Cravath (or White and Case, etc), or a gay fashion designer - they are probably not a great idea. I too think ascots should be a casual alternative to a tie. My dad used to wear them in tropical climates, as they tend to be much more comfortable than closed collar and tie. They look great in my opinion when worn properly. However they are not acceptable in 21st century America, unless you are over 60 and smoking a pipe on your 120 foot sloop off the coast of Bar Harbor. Let's face it, if you are relatively young and single in a place like NYC, bow ties and ascots are an effective substitute for a male birth control pill.

The salad advice is something that the owner of The Andover Shop suggests. He also notes that one usually wears long ties, one should then wear a bow-tie very occasionally to throw viewers off balance.

There are so many ties suited to casual wear in fabrics such as wool, cotton, linen that I do not know why someone would pass up an opportunity to wear one when wearing a collared shirt and jacket.
If you feel that going tieless is the only way to proclaim to the world that you're "Mr. Casual", then maybe you need to think beyond the silk repp tie.

Yes. That is how all of us in the dirty den of scumbags roll.

- B

That's not exactly my vision of "tie-less done well"...

I don't know...of those two chicks walking side by side in the front, I dig the one on the right without a tie.

- B

Ah yes my dear friend, but the question is: would a tie make her look better?

Depends on the situation.

- B

Bruttalita, o stupidita. Non e eleganza, d'avvero.

I think that this issue, as in many things here, comes down to fit. If your suit fits well, and you look like you chose the suit as the best of many options, you can wear it tieless. If your suit does not fit, or you wear a suit because it forgives the figure nature gave you better than anything else in your wardrobe, you'll look bad without the tie.

I do it with a couple of rules -
1. you cant keep the top button closed. That should be a given. Either button or spread collars work, but stay away from exotic collars, anything by eric glennie, or varsity collars.
2. acutally I generally use it as an excuse to wear a less formal shirt since I dont have to worry about matching a tie. More of my plaids/stipes, etc...
3. no french cuff shirts.
4. no double breasted suits
5. I dont like the pocket square but I see both sides of it. Suit with no tie = classy casual. Pocket squre (imo) = formal.

well thast really it. Then again thats just my opinion. I like the look sometimes, but you want to make sure you look comfortable and not like you just came from court and couldnt wait to take off your tie. The last thing you want is to look like the tie is missing, rather that you ment the look.

Posters here are lucky to have the option. At my age and the inevitable severe case of turkey neck I worry if going tieless that passersby might try to harm me, particularly just before festive seasons.

Actually, I change my mind. I don't support Tieless. I think it's stupid and looks bad. I think everyone should buy my ties instead.

I'm wearing something today that many dudes might wear without a tie.

- B