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post #46 of 58
5/10/08 at 2:46am
The only thing that keeps Ready to Die from being perfect, IMO, is fucking Puffy going "uh huh" and "tha's right" every other second.
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post #47 of 58
5/10/08 at 2:53am
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The only thing that keeps Ready to Die from being perfect, IMO, is fucking Puffy going "uh huh" and "tha's right" every other second.


LOL.. Thats actually the only thing I enjoy Diddy doing.
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post #48 of 58
5/10/08 at 3:42am
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Sure, I'll give you that. What I guess I was thinking of is that Biggie's beats are just stone awful most of the time.
I don't really know what to say to that, I guess your just not in to that type of sound. I think Ready to Dies production is superb and the beats are as gritty and hard hitting as his lyrics. But whatever haha, to each is own.
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post #49 of 58
5/10/08 at 12:31pm
Interesting to come across this old school revival on a fashion forum, but some interesting points made. I was a massive fan of Pac and Big - their music initially got me into hiphop as a culture. IMO Pac was the king all round, but there is an untouchable ease in Biggie's flow and simplicity in his delivery that is straight up legendary, eg. "Let Me Get Down".

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+1

I like Tupac -- there's never been a harder diss track than "Hit 'Em Up", at least his parts -- but I never considered him on the same level as Biggie, Jigga, or Nas in terms of talent.

Have you heard "Ether" by Nas? Pure brilliance.

Nas and Pac had more intellect and conscious material than Big or Jay. Jay Z is decent value but to put him up against the likes of the first two is blasphemy. I don't see why so many ppl rate him so highly.

Meanwhile, any Blackstar/Talib/Mos, J5, Common, Roots, etc fans about? Now that's some REAL hiphop.....
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post #50 of 58
5/10/08 at 3:42pm
I got burnt out on Blackstar, I listened to it so much. Saw them last year, it was ok. Live hiphop is kinda awful. Common is okay, the Roots are completely brilliant.
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post #51 of 58
5/10/08 at 3:47pm
Nas is better
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post #52 of 58
5/10/08 at 5:06pm
What's scary is They keep releasing new Tupac albums/songs that seem to talk about current events.
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post #53 of 58
5/10/08 at 6:24pm
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I got burnt out on Blackstar, I listened to it so much. Saw them last year, it was ok.

Live hiphop is kinda awful.

Common is okay, the Roots are completely brilliant.

Yea, i saw talib kweli 5 years ago and he played a good amount of blackstar stuff and some off of reflection eternal. Good enough for me.
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post #54 of 58
5/11/08 at 1:59am
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What's scary is They keep releasing new Tupac albums/songs that seem to talk about current events.

haha +1
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post #55 of 58
5/11/08 at 5:13am
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post #56 of 58
2/26/09 at 6:42pm
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Tupac Shakur is my favorite rapper.
His lyrics are actually meaningful, unlike most rappers today that you find played out on the radio.
You wonder how these guys actually get record deals (soulja boy, lil wayne) their lyrics remain a joke, even eminem's latest music is terrible (crack a bottle).
However Tupac's words had depth, and a message. He was a erudite well learned person who spoke his mind. He spoke on many important social issues, and was a great writer. Although I do not agree or relate perfectly to everything he has said, he is my favorite musical artist.
He is a man who read philosophy, and who owned a sea of books at the time of his death. I sometimes wonder how many rappers read books today, probably close to none. I believe Soulja Boy's "Ya trick Ya" song is proof that he has never opened a book.
And one thing important about Tupac is that he really put his heart into his music, he put his social and philosophical views into his music. He cared for the common man, and could relate easily to the common man. He was flawed but quick to point out his own flaws, and he sought to influence society in a positive manner, he was a caring compassionate person.
And sometimes it pains me to think of how misled rap music is, how we have come to this a decade after his death. It seems that today's music is not at all about lyrics, but more on the music producer, to make it a good track.

Awww, your 9th grade English teacher let you write an essay on hip hop....
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post #57 of 58
2/26/09 at 7:25pm
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1. Go here: http://www.myspace.com/ratatatmusic

2. Listen to their remix of Biggie Smalls' "Party and Bullshit"

(sorry snoop).

One of my favorite cuts. Isn't that from the "Who's the Man" Soundtrack?
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post #58 of 58
2/26/09 at 7:30pm
I think it's very cool that 2pac transcended race/culture. I hear all the time other races saying they don't like rap but they love'em some 2pac.

I agree with the Bob Marley comparison as well because that man was loved so much that he could walk through just about any hood regardless of race & find a hot meal & warm bed to turn too if needed.

To me that's power.
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