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post #106 of 166
jcusey, As a manufacturer there is no need to self promote, since the forum is made up of mostly members who like to buy on sale, which is not my business. As far as contributing, if I have a sale, I will make everybody aware of it, but probably wouldn't be able to compete with the e-bay prices and have no desire to. And as far as contributing strictly knowledge wise, please refer to the Ravazzolo thread. I understand that members have built loyalty with known manufacturers within the board and respect that. The only reason I suggested to create a tie, was to create something unique. Obviously the sentiment is more traditional, hence I withdrew my suggestion.
post #107 of 166
DM: I do apologize for verbalizing the remark.  Rough week. Steve:  I am not a designer so I will withold any serious design attempts.  Production by all means (as I have said before) belongs to Chuck and should be limited to preorders to prevent any excess.  I am sure that additional runs can be made as necessary. Here is my last offer, and I think its nice cause it allows for a joint effort between SF and Andy (anyone against the alliance can substitute an SF for an Andy or go noseless) (and ImageWIS, I hope for G-ds sake you realized that I was kidding)
post #108 of 166
I really think the tie should be deep red and have some nice texture on it .. no stripes and other funky stuff. At the back of the tie, we can put the forum name.
post #109 of 166
Well, we could always just split this up-- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....MEWA:IT
post #110 of 166
So we haven't heard from Chuck.. Jon's not interested... And DM, self promoter though he may be (and frankly I haven't been able to read what he's posted because my confounded computer is in the shop again) has offered to create a design... Can someone contact Chuck, or create a poll???
post #111 of 166
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So we haven't heard from Chuck.. Jon's not interested... And DM, self promoter though he may be (and frankly I haven't been able to read what he's posted because my confounded computer is in the shop again) has offered to create a design... Can someone contact Chuck, or create a poll???
Well obviously Jon's not interested, especially since most members will tie the tie using a knot other than the four in hand... Jon.
post #112 of 166
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(Steve B. @ 06 Dec. 2004, 12:29) So we haven't heard from Chuck.. Jon's not interested... And DM, self promoter though he may be (and frankly I haven't been able to read what he's posted because my confounded computer is in the shop again) has offered to create a design... Can someone contact Chuck, or create a poll???
Well obviously Jon's not interested, especially since most members will tie the tie using a knot other than the four in hand... Jon.
Its not that I am not interested its that I was a little put off in that fact that NOONE seemed to like my "creations"... But seriousely as I mentioned I am not a designer. I can produce the tie (and am interested, no doubt) and I am sure it will be reasonable but the right of first refusal goes to Chuck. JJF PS: Jon...Please PLEase tell me you knew I was kidding??
post #113 of 166
Steve, I think Chuck is/was on vacation, at least that's the word. If anyone can get hold of him to comment on this, please do.
post #114 of 166
You should pay: no more than $20 for a 4-fold tie no more than $35 for a 7-fold tie 'cause these are the approximate costs. The very best tie silks can be bought for an average of 20 Euro per meter. 0.35 meters are needed for a 4-fold tie and 0.9 meters are needed for a 7-fold tie. Some tie fabrics cost less, some a little more. The cost of having ties made(by hand) in Italy generally ranges from 5 to 11 Euro per tie. Whoever ends up getting this project should not exploit this as an opportunity to apply their usual markup. The members should get the ties at cost as outlined above. If you insist on selling them at the usual markup, J, if anyone, should receive the profits. He may get some occasional donations, but the profits from this project could help pay for the long-term costs of running this forum. As far as who gets the project, I think that it should not be one of the designers on Styleforum. The project ought to go to a party unaffiliated to Styleforum. Robert Talbott does take commissions, and there are a couple other companies which actually manufacture 4-fold and 7-fold ties in their facilities in the USA. I think that having a Styleforum tie, cufflinks, collar stays, collar stay box, key fob or underwear is a very silly idea.
post #115 of 166
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Whoever ends up getting this project should not exploit this as an opportunity to apply their usual markup.  The members should get the ties at cost as outlined above.
I don't agree. No-one is going to take the time to do the work without some reward and if there's no profit, there's nothing to contribute to the forum. And why not a style forum member who makes ties? (although I can see why they'd decline after being told to work for nothing because of their "conflict of interest"). From what I read, their ties are as good as Robert Talbott, who'd expect a mark-up too. Getting something for absolutely nothing rarely works and often insults the person to whom you're making the request.
post #116 of 166
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I think that having a Styleforum tie, cufflinks, collar stays, collar stay box, key fob or underwear is a very silly idea.
I don't really agree that FIFties, Chuck, or anyone else, should do this pro bono, (although I think that a discounted price would be a nice courtesy). However, if I wanted to be part of a herd (albeit an elite herd) after my undergrad days, I would have joined the military, FEMA, a fundamentalist church, or some other such bullshit organization.
post #117 of 166
The laborer is worthy of his hire.
post #118 of 166
Private-label manufacturers sell at wholesale prices. Whoever buys the ties at wholesale would decide at what price to sell them from there. In other words, a manufacturer may make private-label 7-fold ties for 7 Euro each with fabric provided by the client, but it is up to the client to decide how much he would like to mark up the ties. I disagree that if a forum member takes on this project he should mark up the item. After all, the tie sellers on this forum are getting free publicity here for the ties and other items that are part of their regular lines. Consider this project to be like the pro bono work done by lawyers.
post #119 of 166
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Consider this project to be like the pro bono work done by lawyers.
Are you a lawyer, and if so, how many pro bono hours did you log last year, with what expectation of beneficial publicity?
post #120 of 166
I may be alittle late, but I'm in. My apologies for not reading too far into the thread, but I like Milano Styles idea of a red tie to match the forum's color. Eric
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