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post #46 of 65
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Originally Posted by dmass1 View Post


Scott W - I appreciate the insight. This is the type of advice I was looking for. Will go with navy.

Don't follow the advice on what he said about colour - most bizarre comment posted in the thread.  Focusing purely on colour, navy and charcoal are both perfectly acceptable conservative colours.  (If one was going to be really nit-picky, I would suggest charcoal had a slight edge in pure CBD terms.  Certainly this was a traditional view in the City, and I think Manton takes the same view in his CBD thread.  But I don't think there is anything wrong with navy per se, I'm just mentioning this as I've never heard navy described as a preferred interview colour.) 

 

Ideally neither would have pinstripes, but clearly that's not an option.

 

The only other thing that concerns me about the navy suit is you say it is slim fitting.  If it looks fashion forward, then the charcoal may be a safer bet.

post #47 of 65

the only thing I would notice about someones appearance is either if they are not wearing a suit at all, or that they are not wearing a tie.  The colour or style of the suit and tie is completely irrelevant to me (unless the tie is some sort of Disney type thing) - as I said, i work in probably the most conservative industries there is.

post #48 of 65
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Originally Posted by wardlem View Post

the only thing I would notice about someones appearance is either if they are not wearing a suit at all, or that they are not wearing a tie.  The colour or style of the suit and tie is completely irrelevant to me (unless the tie is some sort of Disney type thing) - as I said, i work in probably the most conservative industries there is.

Since I note that you're in London, can I ask if you notice or care about shoe color? Would you be deeply offended by a dark brown rather than black, say?

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post #49 of 65
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post


Since I note that you're in London, can I ask if you notice or care about shoe color? Would you be deeply offended by a dark brown rather than black, say?

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Oh yes.  I even made a thread about it:  http://www.styleforum.net/t/312204/poll-brown-shoes-and-dark-suits-in-england-cbd-ucbd-heresy/0_50

 

While I find dark brown shoes aesthetically appealing with navy suits, I would only wear black shoes in London if aiming for CBD.  It would definitely still be noticed in certain quarters.

post #50 of 65
Fuck ticket pockets. I can't stand them.
post #51 of 65
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Originally Posted by matty long legs View Post

Fuck ticket pockets. I can't stand them.


A valid perspective! (No snark - me too, certainly on suits.)

post #52 of 65
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Originally Posted by Balfour View Post


Oh yes.  I even made a thread about it:  http://www.styleforum.net/t/312204/poll-brown-shoes-and-dark-suits-in-england-cbd-ucbd-heresy/0_50

While I find dark brown shoes aesthetically appealing with navy suits, I would only wear black shoes in London if aiming for CBD.  It would definitely still be noticed in certain quarters.

I was asking wardlem, who claims to interview for a top accountancy firm in London, specifically. I know what the general consensus is on that one, trust me, I was just hoping to get the pot stirred a little.
post #53 of 65
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

I was asking wardlem, who claims to interview for a top accountancy firm in London, specifically. I know what the general consensus is on that one, trust me, I was just hoping to get the pot stirred a little.

Alternatively, if the interviewer has to decide your application based on brown/black shoes, either you are a weak candidate or s/he is a utter nonsense.
post #54 of 65
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Originally Posted by dmass1 View Post

And Quarks, your comment that "one who worries about a ticket pocket worries MORE about how they look than what he can contribute to the company" is flawed and pretty dumb to put it bluntly. An inquiry about how appropriate a ticket pocket is in an interview, compared to pinstripes, somehow means I am not concerned with contributing and am a poor candidate? As if the ticket pocket is my only concern about the interview and I'm not preparing myself in other ways.I wouldn't want a boss with such poor logical reasoning.

To each his own. I hire people who are fiercely motivated to spearhead my company, focusing on important aspects on moving the company forward.
Looking presentable, no doubt, is an important factor. I could care less if you have a ticket pocket or missing one, if you can convince me you are the right person for the job. If a candidate has the potential that far exceeds anyone else & you are hired. Dressing well gives you an edge but not single decisive factor. Groom yourself well for the interview, prepare even more vigorously for it. You miss the big picture, you miss the boat. You snooze and you lose. Ticket pocket or not.

If a ticket pocket bothers you or you are unsure abt it. Skip that suit. Pick another without it. Pick a navy or a charcoal suit. Don't have one, go buy one. I can groom someone aesthetically in my company, but I cannot groom his/her attitude.
post #55 of 65
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

I was asking wardlem, who claims to interview for a top accountancy firm in London, specifically. I know what the general consensus is on that one, trust me, I was just hoping to get the pot stirred a little.

Whether shoes are black or brown would have no influence on my decision. As others have said, the answers to questions are more important rather than what you are wearing. Our clients expect a suit and tie and a professional can do attitude. They pay for our advice, not a fashion show!
post #56 of 65
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post


Since I note that you're in London, can I ask if you notice or care about shoe color? Would you be deeply offended by a dark brown rather than black, say?

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Hi - i thought I had replied to this on my iphone but it doesent seem to have posted it.  I wouldnt care if someone had brown or black shoes provided they werent caked in mud !  Our clients pay for our advice, not a fashion show, our only real requirement in terms of attire is to be smart and presentable with a tie.  Some of our tech clients have dress down policies so when we visit them we also dress down as appropriate - but for an interview I expect a smart suit and a tie (non-Disney), it dosent matter if its the cheapest suit out there as long as it looks presentable - we recruit several thousand trainees a year (who are fresh out of Uni) so its completely unreasonable to expect them to spend lots of money on a suit.

 

I wouldnt notice ticket pockets, the colour of the lining, pocket square or anything else to be honest, I would notice garish colours, no tie, novelty tie.  You may ask "so what if someone isnt wearing a tie", but to me it might suggest questions around someones judgement (ie you are going for an interview with a reasonably conservative professional services firm, but you dont wear a tie.............

post #57 of 65
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Originally Posted by wardlem View Post

... I wouldnt care if someone had brown or black shoes provided they werent caked in mud !  Our clients pay for our advice, not a fashion show, our only real requirement in terms of attire is to be smart and presentable with a tie.  ...

 

While I find your attitude refreshing, I would caution people from assuming that all will hold this view in the context of conservative professions in London.

 

While I think the ticket pocket issue is minor detail, wearing black shoes is definitely the safer option.  Even if 95% of people take wardlem's view, no-one will hold it against you if you wear good quality black oxfords.  Some people will still notice and disapprove of brown shoes.  No upside to doing so, so why take the risk?

 

Also, as I noted in the thread I linked above, many people wear atrocious brown shoes with suits (i.e. light tan, pointy. etc.).  So much easier not to go wrong with black.

post #58 of 65
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Originally Posted by Balfour View Post

No upside to doing so, so why take the risk?

There is no risk in the first place.
post #59 of 65
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Originally Posted by add911_11 View Post


There is no risk in the first place.


My comments were confined to conservative professions in London.  There is a risk there.

post #60 of 65
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Originally Posted by Balfour View Post

My comments were confined to conservative professions in London.  There is a risk there.

Well, there is no such thing as conservative profession anyway. Only well-pay or poor-pay, prestigious or modest occupations.
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