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Just got my RL black with cream stripe grenadine tie in the mail. It is 3 3/4" at the widest point, it looks great. The actual weave is very fine, much tighter than most of the grenadines I own. I love the way it looks, and adds a bit of variety from the usual-looking grenadine. They come in four colors on the website. Unfortunately the sale is over, but I got mine for $71.50, down from $95.00. Given the fact that most people dont even know what a grenadine tie is, I am certain they will be available next time there is a sale.