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post #106 of 281
I've generally given up on posting on WAYWRN or its equivalent on the other boards. Either you're nitpicked or you wind up launching into some long message concerning your personal theory of style. Both pretty tiresome.

BTW troll, there's nothing "horrid" about the DB's RSS posted. there are things I'd do somewhat differently but it's better to show by example rather than just throw darts.
post #107 of 281
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Originally Posted by voxsartoria View Post
Shoe posts (or for that matter, similar things like watch posts, etc.) are much less personal. When presented as objects, they are easier to discuss abstractly because it is more often about the maker than the wearer. This takes the emotion quotient one db down.

Sorry, I was sloppy--I didn't mean to say that people aren't posting enough pictures of outfits compared to shoes. I meant that the shoes posted often seem to be more appreciable as objets d'art in and of themselves, and less wearable as parts of an oufit.
post #108 of 281
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Sorry, I was sloppy--I didn't mean to say that people aren't posting enough pictures of outfits compared to shoes. I meant that the shoes posted often seem to be more appreciable as objets d'art in and of themselves, and less wearable as parts of an oufit.

I think that is correct, but I also think that this is magnified by the medium.

When the shoe is on the foot, and one is interacting with others in reality rather than virtually through the internet, the obviousness of most shoes presented as objects here recede considerably in contributatary importance to an overall look.

Like nice cufflinks.

An obvious example of this involves photographs of the soles of shoes, or discussions about the appearence (yay or nay) of sole guards such as Topys.

In real life, unless one is an ardent observor of the male seated leg cross, these are nonissues. So, too, to a less obvious degree, are almost all other single sartorial objects.

- B
post #109 of 281
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post
...the shoes posted often seem to be more appreciable as objets d'art in and of themselves, and less wearable as parts of an oufit.

I have to say that my current favorite thread over at AAAC is what shoe are you wearing right now- I find myself wishing SF had such a thread.
post #110 of 281
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Marc, is that you?

Who's Marc?

Another person who had the audacity to point out the extreme poor taste of some of the most respected members on here?
post #111 of 281
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I have to say that my current favorite thread over at AAAC is what shoe are you wearing right now- I find myself wishing SF had such a thread.

Why don't you start one and see how it goes?
post #112 of 281
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Another person who had the audacity to point out the extreme poor taste of some of the most respected members on here?

I wouldn't reward yourself for audacity so quickly. If you wanted to be audacious, you should have tried venturing some criticism could be intelligibly discussed.
post #113 of 281
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...you should have tried venturing some criticism could be intelligibly discussed.

I thought I made three:

1) The suits in this thread are of materials which are for the most part unusable. A charitable way of saying this, is that it would be very difficult to think of a situation where a tan jacket with flaming orange windowpanes could be suitable. An uncharitable way would be to say that the only matching accessories would be a red wig and nose.

Considering how much pride SF members take in their taste and sense of style, it is puzzling that we aren't laughing at the styles in this thread.

2) A number of the suits in this thread do not fit. The striped DB suit flops around under the belly, while buckling up over the chest. Granted, the wearer has a formidable shape, but the suit still looks bad. One of the SB jackets seems ready to burst a button. Sure, it has a great shape, but it's a size too small.

Considering how we are all willing to pay 2x, 3x, 4x for a style of suit which is "softer" or has some other distinctive quality....why aren't we embarassed at the fact that what could be examples of the most expensive clothing in the world fit like they were purchased on eBay?

3) There are some questionable liberties taken in the tailoring of some of these. Those full-length darts on the DB suit look terrible. Maybe some Napolitan tailors use such a technique...but that tells me that Savile Row tailors generally do not. I understand why they wouldn't -- it looks like a crutch, used to mask a problem in cut.

Considering how we are so obsessed with fusing and pick stitching, which may or may not be evidence of whether the suit will still retain it's shape in 15 years, why on earth are we not offended by what seems to be a deliberate shortcut during the actual tailoring?

So there you have it -- my arguments, laid out in a way that they can be addressed by you, 'intelligibly' as you requested.

I have a tendency to use a quick tongue, but I am sincerely looking forward to your honest responses. I will be severely disappointed if the old-timers of this forum can only muster arguments like "high quality actually looks bad", or "your unsophistication means you can't appreciate the beauty of 45-degree vs 90-degree patterns".
post #114 of 281
^^^ I have a sportcoat on order with an orange windowpane. Should I commission a bespoke red nose?
post #115 of 281
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^^^ I have a sportcoat on order with an orange windowpane. Should I commission a bespoke red nose?

I have one in my closet, so get two. I will PM you my nose measurements.
post #116 of 281
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I have one in my closet, so get two. I will PM you my nose measurements.
I'd need one too but my nose fits most red noses fairly well off the shelf
post #117 of 281
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I'd need one too but my nose fits most red noses fairly well off the shelf

Lucky, I'll bet you save a lot of money.
post #118 of 281
I am severely disappointed that all that the old-timers on this forum can muster to defend against the serious allegations that have been made are jokes about red noses. I guess that if you can't stand the heat, you make a joke.
post #119 of 281
The red noses from Ralph Lauren tend to run large, though.

I like to mix a Neapolitan red nose with SR kit. Avoids the "matchy matchy" thing.
post #120 of 281
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I have a tendency to use a quick tongue...

I think if you had entered into this discussion without throwing careless insults around, you would have gotten a very different response from the one you've received so far. If there's something you dislike, consider carefully how you would frame your questions/concerns, rather than shooting your mouth off. Instead, you've come across as an ill-mannered and uneducated lout, and have been treated that way.
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