Originally Posted by globetrotter
ok, I am confused, what, exactly, are disputing?
look, are you saying that a kettlebell is a better tool to build a bar body than a dumbell? or a better tool than a barbell to build strength? what are you yapping about, elvis?
each of the above is a tool, it has its strenghts and it weaknesses. and just like you can build a house with a stapler and a tea spoon, you can develop your body in different ways with tools that are less appropriate, if that is what turns you on.
All I was saying about kettleballs is that they may be better for certain exercises because you're holding it above its center of gravity, so you don't have to worry about balancing it....such as using a dumbbell during an exercise like the turkish get-up, which can be difficult. Using a kettleball is better because there's no balancing the dumbbell, therefor you can use more weight to work your core better; you don't have to worry so much about your hand/wrist/forearm being a 'bottleneck' for an exercise that's mostly meant to work your core.
To just look good, you can concentrate on barbells and dumbells -- as they work on mass and outside definition.
Exactly what is "outside definition"? I ask because when 99.99% of people use the term "muscle definition", they're really talking about how much fat is around the muscle and thus the muscle's visible definition. Although in the long run doing compound lifts is better for "definition" because not only are compound lifts better cardio if done right, but it's a fact that they build a lot more muscle mass, and muscle burns fat.
There's really no such thing as different weights for different purposes (one kind for strength, one kind of mass, one kind for symmetry, etc). Again, you're either working your muscle or you're not, and compound lifts (squats, deadlifts, power cleans, and yes, turkish get-ups, etc) are better- for strength and mass- than isolation exercises. Working your core/biggest muscles puts your body in a muscle-building state, for all
your muscles. You'd be surprised how much an exercise like the deadlift or power clean works your biceps. Hell, doing planks works your biceps really well....you don't have to be doing a curl motion to work your biceps. The whole myth that doing certain kinds of exercises are better for mass, and others better for "definition", and others better for strength etc needs to be put to rest. It's up there with "spot-reducing fat" as far as validity.
Trust me. Take two twins, and put one on an isolation exercise-only regimen for two years, and another on a deadlift/squat/power clean/bench press-only regimen for only half that time, both with the same good diets, and see which one is more built at the end. Hint: it's not mr. dumbbell curl.
The only reason to make isolation exercises a staple of your regimen is if you're already experienced at weight training and you've hit a plateau with a certain muscle group. Then you should work it separately. But compound lifts should still be the core of your regimen, and if you do it right, it's all you really need to be muscular and strong. If you want to be "cut", that's a matter of diet and cardio.