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post #61 of 168
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Originally Posted by voxsartoria View Post

...has a look that neither impresses nor leads me to expect any real market gains. If the block patterns are vapid, and the cutting uninspired or done by tailors with no deep knowledge, no amount of tiny, tiny handsewn stitches is going to make a bit of difference......
- B
^^^ THIS ^^^

The proof is in the tasting as the saying goes. IF the Crittenden is made from a good pattern, and the tailors have been well versed in how to shape the canvas, then the price suggested WOULD make it a good buy.
post #62 of 168
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Originally Posted by T4phage View Post
^^^ THIS ^^^

The proof is in the tasting as the saying goes.

I think the saying is, "The proof is in the pudding"?
post #63 of 168
I don't think the car/tailored clothing analogy is apt. That said, I don't see what is so hard to believe about offering garments with this amount of handwork (assuming for the sake of argument that they have the most handwork in the world - whatever that means), at this price, when Chinese labor costs are exponentially lower.
post #64 of 168
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Originally Posted by Brad View Post
That said, I don't see what is so hard to believe about offering garments with this amount of handwork (assuming for the sake of argument that they have the most handwork in the world - whatever that means), at this price, when Chinese labor costs are exponentially lower.

It's not the amount of handwork that I doubt, it is the claim of the title of this thread and the subsequent comparisons to other RTW brands that feature handsewing that I question.

If we have two RTW coats at $900 each, and one has a high content of hand stitches, but is boring or ugly, and another, which has minimal hand sewing (say, just to attach the sleeves, a common lower baseline) but has bit of style, who would buy the former except a hand stitch fetishist?

In my opinion, in a RTW coat, unless one takes it apart and reconstructs it by hand, one is already past several stages of a coat's assembly for which hand sewing is most compelling, which is in exploiting characteritics of specific fabrics and findings, and then adapting the garment to a specific individual. Sure, a well sewn buttonhole by hand is nice to look at, but there is nothing intrinsically superior in producing an effect of overall elegance from a coat with many decorative hand stitches vs. one that does not.

Plus, the way in which Kiton, Oxxford, Brioni etc. are marketed produce a large after market of off-price and out of season products that seem to address price conscious individuals fairly successful through both retail resellers and other sources. I would not be surprised if this is part of their assumptive business model.

Again, I am only assessing the photographs posted here, but neither the style nor sewing of what I see in the Crittenden pose much of the challenge to the RTW sellers to which it is being compared. I am prepared to change my mind if I see other samples.

- B
post #65 of 168
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Originally Posted by Sator View Post
I take it you went to the Milan flagship store (that is the only place you can get traditional bespoke with a Brioni label on it - it used to be Rome but now it is Naples) for your Brioni bespoke. Tell us now, how were the results?

Brioni and the Napolitan houses are the best tailors in the world don't worry
post #66 of 168
Thread Starter 
If a Senior Member on this forum would like to see the gament I would be happy to send my sample.

Oh by the way, don't compare it to Mercedes or BMW.

Think Bentley or Rolls Royce!
post #67 of 168
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Originally Posted by tlfurbay View Post
If a Senior Member on this forum would like to see the gament I would be happy to send my sample.

Oh by the way, don't compare it to Mercedes or BMW.

Think Bentley or Rolls Royce!

Well, you are plucky.

What size is the sample coat that you have?

- B
post #68 of 168
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Originally Posted by voxsartoria View Post
Well, you are plucky.

What size is the sample coat that you have?

- B

42R
post #69 of 168
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Originally Posted by tlfurbay View Post
If a Senior Member on this forum would like to see the gament I would be happy to send my sample.

Oh by the way, don't compare it to Mercedes or BMW.

Think Bentley or Rolls Royce!

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Originally Posted by voxsartoria View Post
Well, you are plucky.

What size is the sample coat that you have?

- B

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Originally Posted by tlfurbay View Post
42R

Who cut up the last couple of coats, again? send it to them!!
post #70 of 168
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Originally Posted by tlfurbay View Post
42R

Hmmm...I would offer to evaluate it, but I'm a 40R and I think it should go to someone who has a chance of fitting into it reasonably well.

- B
post #71 of 168
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Originally Posted by chorse123 View Post
I don't know about that. If Hickey Freeman can make a full canvas sportcoat with a retail price of $1000 using union labor in Rochester, NY, I think you could very easily make one with much more handwork in Tailoring City, China for the same or a lot less. There's an article in this week's New Yorker about airport design with this amazing point:


http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critic...urrentPage=all

I don't have a link to it, but I read that Chinese are launching more satellites nowadays than any other country in the world. All because they are using a really big sling shot operated by about 3 million peasants . Even with medical costs from abdominal hernias included each launch cost less than 300 yuans or 20 kg of fried noodles.
post #72 of 168
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Originally Posted by kngrimm View Post
What about Corvette's new super-charged blue devil? It's 100k I think and it should beat the GTR if I'm hearing the correct stats... should be easily over 600hp, I think.

Anyway, at these numbers it's all so close...

While no one can deny that the Corvette is an almost straightfaced alternative to many supercars, at that price point, you think it'd KILL THEM to stop making cabins with all that godforsaken plastic? I mean Hondas have more leather than Corvettes. And while the aformentioned 100k limited edition is enviable in alot of ways, I think that long term it's still gonna suffer from the same fit and finish issues that plague GM cars across the board. Can you imagine doing 160 and having a dash button fly off and bean you in the face?
post #73 of 168
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Originally Posted by Artisan Fan View Post
In driving factors, the BMW beats Lexus on many models but Benz is overrated in many areas. One real weakness they have (learned from my detailing hobby) is absolutely horrible orange peel in the paint yet can have a $20-30K+ premium versus the comparable Lexus model. The new Lexus 460 paint is on par with hand lacquered Bentleys from a flatness and gloss standpoint.

The LFA is definitely coming. The IS 350 handles about the same as a BMW 3 Series. They are quite nice and a new direction for Lexus.

+1 But you gotta admit, Mercedes s65 is OTHERWORLDLY in performance. 60 mph in 4.2 seconds. 0- 60 mph, thats faster than:

1. A Porsche 911 Carrera S.

2. A Chevrolet Corvette convertible.

3. A Ferrari 612 Scaglietti F1.

post #74 of 168
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post
But supposedly the Crittendon $895 Blazer compares well to an Oxxford $2500 Blazer.

Probably a bit of a stretch in that claim but it's also probably a heck of a value for $895.

If this is true, then they can count on me as a customer. The Oxxford blazer is high quality imho.

P.S. I also admire the Nissan GTR.
post #75 of 168
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Originally Posted by Strange View Post
+1 But you gotta admit, Mercedes s65 is OTHERWORLDLY in performance. 60 mph in 4.2 seconds. 0- 60 mph, thats faster than:

1. A Porsche 911 Carrera S.

2. A Chevrolet Corvette convertible.

3. A Ferrari 612 Scaglietti F1.


In acceleration yes, quality is a more open discussion. Don't get me wrong I like the AMGs.
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