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post #31 of 72
4/15/08 at 10:23am
I just prefer to keep my hair closely cut. I find shaving completely to be too dramatic, but close to a buzz is nice. Dealing with all the different treatments is not for me. I find not worrying about it and being happy and confident with my appearance works well for me. I think if I started taking drugs and using topical treatments, I would completely obsess about every little gain or loss of hair. I'd freak out about any time I thought I was dealing with a side effect. It would just be a constant reminder that I'm going bald. For me, those treatments are just not worth the additional hassle in my life, but they may very well work for others. I just keep it short and never think about it.
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post #32 of 72
4/16/08 at 2:02am
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I used to use Alpecin back when it first came out along with finasteride. It smells good but didn't do anything. It is very popular in Europe. The caffeine flushes the DHT from the scalp but the Lithium in my compound is crucial.

Do you buy it or make it yourself? Share your secret.
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post #33 of 72
4/16/08 at 2:37am
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Originally Posted by JoeWoah View Post
Do you buy it or make it yourself? Share your secret.
I make most my shiz myself. The best forum to check out is regrowth.com because they actually come up with new ideas constantly, even though most are labeled as crackpot by the other forums who will spew more vitriol than the CE forum if you say anything other than "DHT causes hairloss". http://www.regrowth.com/hairloss-for...fm?f=6&t=17140 Some guys over there have their own brews. I go by what one of the gurus who goes by immortalhair says:
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It wasn't me, but I'll tell what I'm using. 8 oz shampoo (natural type with no Lauryl Sulfate) Teaspoon of DMSO Two Teaspoons of Caffeine power Two Teaspoons of Lithium Orotate (from crushed tablets). The DMSO allows the Lithium to absorb well and it will have an effect you can feel (no oily scalp).
You can get the DMSO and Lithium Orotate from iherb.com . Some say to use Lithium Chloride since it is supposed to dissolve better. The caffeine anyhdrous can be gotten in powder form from bulknutrition.com You can use any kind of shampoo, though the more viscous the harder it will be to mix. Some people just use water. Load up that caffeine.. the first few times you use this concoction you will get high from it... it's awesome!
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post #34 of 72
4/16/08 at 4:52am
I have some (more than some) scalp showing, and it is somewhat disturbing. What I wonder is, as guys, is there anything I can make up for that...

I have been told that a girl doesn't care about that...

Really, what can I do without using 101 products that will possibly give me cancer stop my hair loss, or can I trust my friends.

I am in my mid 20's and not the richest guy on the block, but consider myself a strong prescence...
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post #35 of 72
4/16/08 at 11:44am
Shave it off if you have the right head shape. Bald men are the sex. Just look at Patrick Stewart.
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post #36 of 72
4/16/08 at 11:53am
if it's too late to completely save then i suggest cutting it pretty short and making the most of what you have. if you have the head for it, go the complete shave!
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post #37 of 72
4/16/08 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by GoSurface View Post
Shave it off if you have the right head shape. Bald men are the sex. Just look at Patrick Stewart.
I got some receding temples, but I'm deathly afraid of shaving my head. I think it's both 1) lumpy and 2) pretty heavily scarred.
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post #38 of 72
4/16/08 at 10:00pm
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I have some (more than some) scalp showing, and it is somewhat disturbing. What I wonder is, as guys, is there anything I can make up for that... I have been told that a girl doesn't care about that... Really, what can I do without using 101 products that will possibly give me cancer stop my hair loss, or can I trust my friends. I am in my mid 20's and not the richest guy on the block, but consider myself a strong prescence...
Doesn't sound like you're anywhere near the point of shaving it off. Also, girls lie. That's like how women say size doesn't matter. Blah, blah, white noise, blah. The most effective style is the close-cropped Ceaser. He was notoriously concerned about this balding and used to wear the style and a laurel wreath whenever possible... like how balding guys wear ball caps a lot. If your more concerned about density, you need to consider this... if you have light skin and dark hair, you need more hair to look dense. Lighten your hair color, or darken your skin and scalp color, then you look like you have more hair. There is also a product Topix that you sprinkle on your balding/lighter spots that some use as a cover up. I haven't used it, but it's always an option. Basically it's synthetic hair flakes you hold in place with some spray. They expand and give you the look of dense hair. It seems to look good and some people swear by the stuff. For the rest, read my past posts and the thread. As I said before, finasteride (if you have insurance, you'll pay $5 or so), Rogaine, vitamin, eat better, good fats like fish oil. They aren't that expensive, though Rogaine can get pricey, but you can get 4-months for $50 which isn't bad. Generics are like $20 of a 4 month supply. I'm going to try tiecollector's brew too. Can't hurt to just try.
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I got some receding temples, but I'm deathly afraid of shaving my head. I think it's both 1) lumpy and 2) pretty heavily scarred.
I have a fat head, haha.
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post #39 of 72
4/16/08 at 10:01pm
Sounds interesting.

Do you use this as the shampoo or do you shampoo first?

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Originally Posted by tiecollector View Post
I make most my shiz myself. The best forum to check out is regrowth.com because they actually come up with new ideas constantly, even though most are labeled as crackpot by the other forums who will spew more vitriol than the CE forum if you say anything other than "DHT causes hairloss".

http://www.regrowth.com/hairloss-for...fm?f=6&t=17140

Some guys over there have their own brews. I go by what one of the gurus who goes by immortalhair says:



You can get the DMSO and Lithium Orotate from iherb.com . Some say to use Lithium Chloride since it is supposed to dissolve better.

The caffeine anyhdrous can be gotten in powder form from bulknutrition.com

You can use any kind of shampoo, though the more viscous the harder it will be to mix. Some people just use water.

Load up that caffeine.. the first few times you use this concoction you will get high from it... it's awesome!
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post #40 of 72
4/17/08 at 1:10am
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Originally Posted by JoeWoah View Post
Sounds interesting.

Do you use this as the shampoo or do you shampoo first?

I mix it in with my shampoo then use it in the shower. If you don't mix it with your shampoo then wet your hair and then massage the shiz in. Let it sit 2 minutes, then wash it out. you can shampoo before or after. I'd recommend a shampoo without sodium laureth sulfate since it dries our your hair and can cause inflammation.
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post #41 of 72
4/18/08 at 7:03pm
As many have mentioned, there is only one cure for MPB. I use it myself:

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post #42 of 72
4/18/08 at 7:22pm
Just took a 1/8" guard to the head and no guard to the face.

I'm sticking with this through out the entire summer.... I just wish my eyebrows would thin up a bit.
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post #43 of 72
4/19/08 at 10:45am
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Originally Posted by JoeWoah View Post
It all depends on you and your body chemistry if any of the current treatments will work, including grafts. Could the meds regrow hair, stop loss, slow loss or just not work at all? Don't know until you try it.

Propecia (finasteride) works for me, I had minor sides in the first two weeks of use, but my body adjusted. Some people have side effect that they can live with, other have none, and some can't stand the stuff. As for effectiveness, I haven't had any loss since using it.

Rogaine also works for me, despite the fact that it says it shouldn't (not for MPB anyway). I could see peach fuzz on my forehead from using it within 3 months. For some it doesn't work at all, for some there are side effects (heart palpitations)... I didn't have side effects other than minor skin irritation, but that went away when I bought the foam.

I also eat better, get more veggies, eat lots of good fats and take supplements like Multivitamins, Zinc, Selenium, Biotin and Fish Oil.

If you buy the generic Propecia (finasteride) and cut it up, you'll get like 150 doses or more out of a bottle (Propecia is 1mg, the generic form is 5mg, do the math if you get 30 pills). If you manage 60, sweet. If you have insurance, Finasteride is covered, but Propecia may not be.

For now, you need to at least try to maintain what you have, any restoration doctor worth anything will tell you that. Again, I refer you to baldingblog.com... ask the doctors there yourself. If you don't, than you will require far more grafts than what you would need otherwise. That could take multiple surgeries and tens of thousands of dollars more, if it would be even possible.

Worse yet, the very condition that made you lose that hair in the first place will still persist, so in order for you not to lose your investment you will have to take finasteride and/or Rogaine after anyway.

So, bite the bullet and at least try it for a month or 3 months. All effects will go away, good or bad, within a few days of stopping if you do.

PS: Durestride is the newest DHT blocker around, it works better than Finasteride, but right now is only for Prostate issues/cancer and NOT FDA approved for hair loss, though I hear that will change in about a year or so. All evidence points to it working better than anything else out there right now, but there could be more side effects because a dose for hair loss hasn't been set... it's all trial and error right now.

+1 .... I have been using Propecia (finasteride), for about a year and a half now. The first three months you will feel some side effects, but after that I was fine. Also, buying the generic version online in bulk is the way to go. It really works and keeps as much hair on your head as possible.
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post #44 of 72
4/19/08 at 3:32pm
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Originally Posted by tiecollector View Post
I'm convinced that right around (1 to 2 years) the corner we will have some simple regenerative treatments that don't involve stem cells or cancer risks.

Many people say that, but there is no evidence anything is right around the corner.

Also, JoeWoah is right - women do care about hair loss. As usual, there are studies.
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post #45 of 72
4/19/08 at 3:49pm
Propecia has truly stopped my hair loss, but I believe it is causing some side-effects on me:
-occasional limp dick
-fat on my torso
-possibly some brain-fog? Can anyone elaborate on this? I have been having trouble concentrating lately...
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