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post #46 of 133
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Originally Posted by Holdfast View Post
Just had another couple of thoughts to try to reduce some of the concerns being mentioned in this thread. Constructive suggestions, if you like:

1) It might be an idea to have 2 separate B&S sections, just like the Men's Clothing and Streetwear & Denim forums are separate. That would reduce the number of threads (and therefore the turnover) in each forum, benefiting both buyers and sellers of both types of clothes.

2) Regular repeat sellers could have a single edited thread (until such time the edit window on that thread expires) rather than having lots of threads on the go at any given time for lots of different items arriving at different times. This has both positives and negatives for sellers & buyers. Postives are less overall threads filling the forum, so less turnover hopefully, so slowing the drift down the pages. Regular sellers will be updating that thread fairly often with new items and if we're allowed to post a new post to the thread when we add new items or sell an existing item as we currently do, it shouldn't disappear too quickly. Negatives are that when it does go off the first page, a lot of stock could remain unsold in one go, and that's scary.

3) In conjunction with the above (and I hesitate to suggest this for fear of a backlash) but very regular sellers (and I freely admit that I don't quite fall into this category myself) could have a pinned single sales thread? Extra visibility, but no other threads from them allowed. Maybe even work in a donation scheme for the board in return for the pinned thread?

In the end it's all a balance - many regular sellers here are small scale, operating on low margins as a bit of a hobby for nothing more than beer money. The free advertising we get here helps us keep margins low and move items quickly. The downside is that we're all afraid of getting lumbered with lots of stock we can't shift. We can't absorb that hit the way a big store can. So we're always trying to ensure items sell fairly quickly. Buyers get a good deal because of the ultra-low prices on offer, but the slightly fervent desire sellers have to keep their threads visible is the quid pro quo.

These are all good suggestions, some of which have been considered and rejected (for the time being), and others which are being considered seriously.

1) Not likely to happen in the foreseable future. This has been discussed ad naseum. Of course, circumstances may change.

2) This is a technical problem, but one we may be looking into

3) This is definitely a possibility - essentially, a "pay for pinning" system. We are very seriously considering this option, including the number of pinned threads we would allow, the price, and the duration of payment cycles. Remember that this option requires additional administration, so we are looking into realistic ways to implement this. Of course, this option would be most beneficial to the high volume sellers, for whom the cost of the advertising space (because that is essentially what it would be) be be worth the increased profile.

Just to let you all know that we are not unaware of your concerns.

Cheers,

Fok.
post #47 of 133
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Originally Posted by teddieriley View Post
I actually don't see anything wrong with posting that something has sold. I think it is a fair "bump" that informs the public what is going on with that particular sales thread and what is available. Simply updating the original post does no good in helping your items sell (i.e. no increased visibilty).

I agree with this for threads with multiple items. We encourage consolidated threads, and this is just one small reward for being a good Styleforumite.

Fok.
post #48 of 133
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Originally Posted by Clench Million View Post
Yep, that seems like the smart strategy. Although following this made me lose out on one of aportnoy's awesome suits
BTW...thanks for letting me grab them!!
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Originally Posted by A Canuker View Post
I think this has more to do with some of the crap and the massive amounts of spam that seem to have taken over the board in the last few months. When I get to the office and have a look there can be 1-5 threads on page one talking all about "behold and avail" or something else just as stupid blocking perfectly good threads about suits that I want to see
Is there any way for the mods to block and/or remove posts by the spammers, as opposed to them taking up space and then getting bumped back up to the top when someone marks them as spam?
post #49 of 133
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post
I agree with this for threads with multiple items. We encourage consolidated threads, and this is just one small reward for being a good Styleforumite.

Fok.

so when something does sell, we can bump it?
post #50 of 133
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Originally Posted by whusurdadi View Post
BTW...thanks for letting me grab them!!

Gah!

Well, if you change your mind you know who to call (or pm rather)
post #51 of 133
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Originally Posted by constant struggle View Post
so when something does sell, we can bump it?

The point is consolidating items and providing useful info. If you're selling 5 items, one sells, proper course is to post which item has sold so people know, what you have remaining, price cuts if any, or edit of the original thread to remove pics of sold items if you have many in the first place. Conversely, you post to let people know you're adding items to the same thread. Bumping seems incidental in either situation.

It's free shameless bumping that is not allowed.
post #52 of 133
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post
These are all good suggestions, some of which have been considered and rejected (for the time being), and others which are being considered seriously.
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Just to let you all know that we are not unaware of your concerns.

Thanks! Good to know, and thanks also for the confirmation re: posting sales updates in multi-item threads.


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Originally Posted by teddieriley View Post
The point is consolidating items and providing useful info. If you're selling 5 items, one sells, proper course is to post which item has sold so people know, what you have remaining, price cuts if any, or edit of the original thread to remove pics of sold items if you have many in the first place. Conversely, you post to let people know you're adding items to the same thread. Bumping seems incidental in either situation.

Makes sense to me.
post #53 of 133
late to the party as usual...
As a seller, I will say that the sales of some "better" items is much, much slower than it has been in the recent past. I'm quite sure this is a multi-factorial phenomenon, though will say that it's only loyalty that keeps me posting Kiton, Oxxford, Zegna, and Belvest items (etc) at 70-80% off retail or more, when items on ebay, even when slow, these fetch a higher premium
add the need for price drops to maintain visibility for threads that don't get much chatter, and you end up with $20-30k worth of merchandise not moving, taking a loss, or needing to set up a real e-store a la VCH. On the plus side, having an army of Kiton jackets did make me feel like a king for a short time
post #54 of 133
I have noticed that lately fewer sellers specify what form of payment they accept. Since I refuse to use paypal I typically just move on if no form of payment is mentioned.

Having said that, I have also noticed a shift in the type of clothing offered recently towards the street wear group. Also, more beginning sellers than before.

Like the OP, I do not pass judgment about any of this...just observations that will not change my enjoyment of this forum.
post #55 of 133
what really irritates me is cross posting, where a superfuture users will register just to post up some buy sell abercrombie and express polos no one wants to buy anyway alot of forums have a minimum post count for buy and sell and i feel like that would cut down alot of these useless for sale posts
post #56 of 133
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Originally Posted by breakfasteatre View Post
alot of forums have a minimum post count for buy and sell and i feel like that would cut down alot of these useless for sale posts

I was just thinking about that earlier. Instead of new guys familiarizing themselves with other members, what is discussed here, etc., they, with their 17 posts count, start trying to sell crap from their closets. Really, the B&S shouldn't be reduced to a garage sale of low quality clothing from the likes of Express, A&F, Gap, etc. But I guess if you wanted to give it away, like what Shoe was known to do from time to time, that was great for the younger members on the forum.
post #57 of 133
garage sales have better items that what is being posted
post #58 of 133
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Originally Posted by EL72 View Post
Nice try but I keep my thoughts on specific items to myself so they can't destroy anything. I agree with scruff that some shit posted for sale is crap but would never comment on that directly in a sales thread.

You could just send me a PM letting me know what's overpriced. Over time I'm improving, but I'm still not the best judge of value.
post #59 of 133
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Originally Posted by chl View Post
garage sales have better items that what is being posted

Agreed. I was just trying to be nice.
post #60 of 133
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Originally Posted by teddieriley View Post
This idea has been rejected by the mods on countless occasions.

[re: streetwear B&S vs. MC b&s]

Not exactly, just that we never did it. It's probably a good idea. We'd have to make two subforums for B&S and it would make slightly more work for sellers and might reduce traffic for them, but who knows what the net effect would be. I'm not against it at all personally. Maybe we [someone] should make a poll ("should B&S be split between MC and SW&D?").

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Originally Posted by teddieriley View Post
I was just thinking about that earlier. Instead of new guys familiarizing themselves with other members, what is discussed here, etc., they, with their 17 posts count, start trying to sell crap from their closets. Really, the B&S shouldn't be reduced to a garage sale of low quality clothing from the likes of Express, A&F, Gap, etc. But I guess if you wanted to give it away, like what Shoe was known to do from time to time, that was great for the younger members on the forum.

I can do this. I'll look at it in the next couple of days. Maybe 15-20 minimum post count to start a thread in B&S? It uses the same hack as the >100 posts to read CEsspool thing.
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