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post #31 of 81
Are you guys discussing Chen style tai chi which is fast and vigorous and involves jarring issuance of force, Yang style which is typically and prolifically taught here in the US as moving meditation, either of the Wu styles which are martial, Chang style which was formed by shuai chiao master chang tung shen and is very martial with every move a battle technique including neck breaking?

Just what are you discussing when you say "Tai chi"?

Many methods and purposes...

Let the attacks begin!
post #32 of 81
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Coho, Eason - play nicely or I am going to have to separate you two. Enough with the chasing each other around crap.



Why not give them a timeout, in the timeout box ?
post #33 of 81
I think this thread would be much more productive if people just stick to the question asked. By observation in my own threads and those of others, people here just post gratuitous comments to sound like a smart-ass. Just look at the MTM shirt thread started by Hanhb for proof. I say let there be peace. Like I said earlier, Tai Chi can be a way to strengthen internal systems before you practice more physically demanding exercises. In Shotokan, we spent a good 10 minutes before each section doing basic movements and meditation.
post #34 of 81
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It's more about Conne than about tai chi. If one of our more senior members asked about tai chi, I think that there would be resounding support of the suggestion. If someone said they have issues relaxing and were too high strung, what do we think of tai chi, then I suspect the thread would be constructive advice debating various options for similar exercises.

When Conne - for whom the board perception is a pretty resounding 'dude, man up' - tai chi is probably a step in the wrong direction.

We have told Conne repeatedly to lift weights, play sports, etc... he refuses to do so. Frankly I don't know why asks about doing any sort of "ňúsport' if he isn't going to actually take the time to try it out.

Jon.
post #35 of 81
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Bruce Lee practices JEET KUEN DO!

Be like water.

Jon.
post #36 of 81
Wushu is what I trained in. If you want to be competitive, you just need to practice hard. You don't have to get into it when you're young, I saw a caucasian guy (just to dispel the myth that only Asian people can do acrobatic stuff) who was doing all the northern wushu styles and he was in his 40s. That said most of the champions are Chinese teenagers. However Wushu is such an incredibly general term that it could mean anything, pretty much. I do think Wushu and Taiji are completely separate, however. Oh, my school taught all four styles of Taiji, but most people (as mentioned above) were interested in Yang. The instructors are the two women in the US that hold the #1 and #2 spots for gold medals in Taiji. ^^ my teacher
post #37 of 81
Cool, mine too.
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post #39 of 81
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Conne is too "soft" for Tai chi, so I would recommend Aikido.

post #40 of 81
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Eason

I'm going to take it as a compliment.
post #41 of 81
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Lots of useful links.
post #42 of 81
T'ai Chi is a martial art, not a sort of exercise for woosies! If you want to go the road of the "internal schools" (developing Chi - Ki - in japanese) trough T'ai Chi, P'a kua or Aikido, and you feel comfortable with - takes around six months to figure out - go for it. What we westerners don't understand about oriental martial arts is that they are roads (do) towards the same final point, as in life. It is real that in "external styles" - wushu, kung-fu, karate, penchak-silat, etc. you will be proficient in a street fight with bums after 3-4 years, but the thing is if it is suiting you. Another good form of exercise that you can do with style until you are well in your '50 is european fencing... So make your choice!
post #43 of 81
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T'ai Chi is a martial art, not a sort of exercise for woosies!!

That is the type of thinking that can get people hurt. Tai chi is a martial art if all possible threats will come at you from little old people in pajamas moving slowly.

I don't want this to become a 'who's tougher than who' thread. But I have had personal experience with people who have studied soft arts for years, becoming extremly well regarded by their peers asking me to 'push' them. They basically wanted to show mw how they were so well grounded with their magic pajama dance that I couldn't budge them. Again, this isn't about me, but about the art - in both cases I ended up with an embarressed person saying 'wow, in class that worked so well' after I pushed them across the room.

These soft arts work too much on practising with other people who are being gentle. They give you a false sense of security.
post #44 of 81
don't get me started. My gf's friend has been doing aikido for years and was trying to demonstrate some ability to throw me by while gripping only two of my fingers. I kept slapping him in the head with the other hand just to remind him that it was there (point being, that could well be a left hook hitting his jaw, rather than a half-speed bitchslap), and he kept telling me that at real speed that wont happen. So I slapped him faster....he gave up trying to throw me and decided I "just dont understand".
post #45 of 81
Yeah, I didn't want to get into a story, but I had a similar experience. A friend of mine did aikido for years. Even went for months to japan to live in a camp and study. Studied 3 times a week for maybe 8 years.

He asked me to push him, and made a face like a kid straining on the toilet. I threw him maybe 4 meters on my first push. It really wasn't that hard. He looked so surprised it was a classic picture. They did this excersize in class all the time and weren't able to push each other. I am guessing they were just such believers that they didn't want to show each other that it didn't work.

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don't get me started.

My gf's friend has been doing aikido for years and was trying to demonstrate some ability to throw me by while gripping only two of my fingers.

I kept slapping him in the head with the other hand just to remind him that it was there (point being, that could well be a left hook hitting his jaw, rather than a half-speed bitchslap), and he kept telling me that at real speed that wont happen.

So I slapped him faster....he gave up trying to throw me and decided I "just dont understand".
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