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post #16 of 33
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A man with real style wouldn't/shouldn't/couldn't have been bothered in the slightest if a waitress accidently spilled red wine over his new linen bespoke Brioni suit.
Alright LA Guy, I've got to take issue with this   It's not an excuse to throw a fit, make a scene, or even look like you are about to cry, but you're gonna be pretty upset if someone spills wine on your bespoke Brioni suit My brothers and sisters have a habit of stepping on the toes of my good shoes, sometimes unintentionally, sometimes just to get a rise out of me. I do my best to remain calm
post #17 of 33
"My brothers and sisters have a habit of stepping on the toes of my good shoes, sometimes unintentionally, sometimes just to get a rise out of me. I do my best to remain calm" I guess your size 13's give them an ample target, or excuse.  
post #18 of 33
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It's not an excuse to throw a fit, make a scene, or even look like you are about to cry, but you're gonna be pretty upset if someone spills wine on your bespoke Brioni suit
Exactly right. Clothing is ultimately perishable; and if the thought of something bad happening to what you wear destroys your equanimity, you probably shouldn't be wearing it. That having been said, while it's not appropriate to cause a scene or to become disconsolate if somebody spills wine all over your Brioni suit, you have every right not to be happy about it. And whoever did the damage had better pay for the cleaning.
post #19 of 33
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And whoever did the damage had better pay for the cleaning.
If they are not forthcoming, drag them in front of Judge Judy. Right???
post #20 of 33
Please buy them if they are within your budget and you feel that you can appreciate them. Nothing is nicer than a nice pair of shoes, and it's hard to beat Edward Green in that respect.
post #21 of 33
One of my favorite clothing quotes: "The quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten." Go for it.
post #22 of 33
It's difficult to say a definite yes or no. The kind of job usually determines the kind of clothes you'll wear. If you have an office job, then wearing a suit and dress shoes is almost a must (almost is for the offices that allow casual clothing). If you have a high paying office job, and a lot of power, then buying expensive suits and shoes is justifiable in the eyes of the collective psyche. Since childhood, unconsciously, we have been conditioned to associate succesful/rich/powerful people with expensive clothes, big houses, expensive cars, and the attention that goes to them. For some reason, if you have modest means, but spend a lot of money on expensive clothes, or shoes people tend to label you as phoney, trying too hard, snob, etc. No, matter what members of the forum might say, it's important to balance our social status with the appearance. I, personally, can't see myself spending $500 on shoes right now. First, I don't have a job where wearing expensive suits, shoes, accessories, etc will help me be more effective at what I do. Second, without a strong financial base I can't see myself justifying the purchase of such expensive shoes. When I make 70-80 grand a year, maybe I'll be willing to spend $500 on a pair of shoes. Maybe. There is a voice, deep there, telling me that an expensive pair of shoes will help me make a big impression at various formal occasions. Well, so far I haven't had many formal occasions to justify the purchasing of such shoes. If that changes, maybe I'll consider it. Again, maybe.
post #23 of 33
For me, it's not easy to part with $500 for a pair of EG.  But when I wear it, the comfort - I am fortunate in that its 8.5/9 F202 fits me almost like a glove - and the beauty of it sometimes make me wonder why on earth do I want to get any shoes other than EG. (But I do come to my senses eventually so I still wear my other lesser shoes: Weston, Lobb, J&M, Alden, Sebago and I still dream of trying Vass, Grenson Masterpieces and the countless gorgeous Italian shoes if they make them in wide fittings that is.) So as many forum members have said before me, it really depends on your value system.  In mine, I will continue to buy EGs even though they cost more than many alternatives out there.
post #24 of 33
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Exactly right. Clothing is ultimately perishable; and if the thought of something bad happening to what you wear destroys your equanimity, you probably shouldn't be wearing it. That having been said, while it's not appropriate to cause a scene or to become disconsolate if somebody spills wine all over your Brioni suit, you have every right not to be happy about it.
I'll agree with this, um, toned down and altered version of my statement. About paying for the cleaning though, unless the damage was caused by a malicious or reckless act, I think that a real gentleman would not insist that the waitress pay for the cleaning (god knows they are not making much anyway.) In any case, at a good restaurant, the management will probably insist on reimbursing you. If you're not at a good restaurant, chalk it up to experience.
post #25 of 33
"No, matter what members of the forum might say, it's important to balance our social status with the appearance." Sorry but I don't agree with this. I make a modest amount of money, but without a wife or kids I have a bit more disposable income than a family man who makes twice what I do. I like the way I feel when I'm wearing nice quality clothes but as a profession I'm close to being just a common laborer. If people want to call me a poser then that's their problem; the compliments and affirmations from strangers is enough to tell me that the money I spend on good quality clothes is money well spent. It's all about how the clothes makes YOU feel. I recently spent $600 on a little brass model railroad locomotive. Some might think that excessive but the joy I get out of watching my little Shay wind its way around a plaster mountain is well worth it to me. Everybody had their priorities on how they spend their money; if expensive clothing makes you feel good then do it. As Reggie Jackson said in an Old VW commercial "the only person I need to impress is me."
post #26 of 33
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For me, not only is it a lot of money, by any standard, but it's also a lot... smaller.  Do you know what I mean?  I mean, a suit that costs thousands of dollars makes sense (to me) because it pretty much covers your whole body.  It is the major part of the outfit.  Shoes stick out a few inches beyond your trouser.  You feel a suit on your whole body.  You feel shoes on a little part of your body.  To me, a custom suit feels and looks many multiples better than a standard old RTW mediocre suit.  It's worth that much more.  I like shoes a lot, but are $500 EGs worth 2-3 times more than, says $200 Grensons?   I'm sure some of you will take issue with my saying that shoes are a minor part of the outfit.  I'm not sure that's exactly what I mean.  but I really do see the value in an ultra expensive suit, whereas I have trouble seeing the value in ultra expensive shoes. Don't know if that makes sense. Looking forward to your responses.
ZJ I don't know if I would agree that shoes are necessarily "smaller."  I order ready to wear suits, but am harder on them than I am on my ready to wear shoes.  I sit on gum at the pigsty called a university where I take night classes.  At the gym, I take my suit off and hang it on a flimsy wire hanger, then slam the sleeve in the latch on the locker.  I wear out the crotch of my trousers, and (someone's pet peeve from another thread) hang my briefcase on my shoulder from the shoulderstrap. Of course, I step in things while wearing my shoes, get caught in the rain, and occasionally scratch the toes, but I seem to cause comparatively more damage to my suits than I do to my shoes.  I can't imagine buying a $2,000 suit, but I can (almost) imagine buying a $2,000 pair of shoes. Also, on any given day, I can wear a suit or shirt that is a little too small or too large. Granted, I will look silly, and may be a bit embarrassed  (Today I am wearing a shirt I bought during my student days that has a touch of polyester in it. I am itchy, hot and not too comfortable), but no long term phsical damage will be done. I cannot walk half a block in shoes that are too tight or two sizes too big. Of course, just because a shoe is expensive does not necessarily mean that it will be the most comfortable on the market for a particular foot. Also, I note that you suggest that a custom suit feels and looks many multiples better than a standard old RTW mediocre suit.  Perhaps then a better shoe comparison would be a bespoke pair of EG shoes vs. $200 Grensons. I am considering bespoke EG's, but cannot imagine whether the added cost will be worth the benefit.   Bic
post #27 of 33
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It's difficult to say a definite yes or no. The kind of job usually determines the kind of clothes you'll wear. If you have an office job, then wearing a suit and dress shoes is almost a must (almost is for the offices that allow casual clothing). If you have a high paying office job, and a lot of power, then buying expensive suits and shoes is justifiable in the eyes of the collective psyche. Since childhood, unconsciously, we have been conditioned to associate succesful/rich/powerful people with expensive clothes, big houses, expensive cars, and the attention that goes to them. For some reason, if you have modest means, but spend a lot of money on expensive clothes, or shoes people tend to label you as phoney, trying too hard, snob, etc. No, matter what members of the forum might say, it's important to balance our social status with the appearance.
I'd dissent from this view and agree instead with another message above.  That is, the richest people I know dress in nondescript fashion and appear as if they'd been asleep in the hedges for the night.  (And on occasion, I know this to be true.). I'd also agree with substance of LA Guy's msg:  if you've got to worry about it (at least too much), you probably shouldn't buy it.
post #28 of 33
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For me, not only is it a lot of money, by any standard, but it's also a lot... smaller.  Do you know what I mean?  I mean, a suit that costs thousands of dollars makes sense (to me) because it pretty much covers your whole body.  It is the major part of the outfit.  Shoes stick out a few inches beyond your trouser.  You feel a suit on your whole body.  You feel shoes on a little part of your body.  To me, a custom suit feels and looks many multiples better than a standard old RTW mediocre suit.  It's worth that much more.  I like shoes a lot, but are $500 EGs worth 2-3 times more than, says $200 Grensons?   I'm sure some of you will take issue with my saying that shoes are a minor part of the outfit.  I'm not sure that's exactly what I mean.  but I really do see the value in an ultra expensive suit, whereas I have trouble seeing the value in ultra expensive shoes. Don't know if that makes sense. Looking forward to your responses.
ZJ I don't know if I would agree that shoes are necessarily "smaller."  I order ready to wear suits, but am harder on them than I am on my ready to wear shoes.  I sit on gum at the pigsty called a university where night classes are held.  At the gym, I take my suit off and hang it on a flimsy wire hanger, then slam the sleeve in the latch on the locker.  I wear out the crotch of my trousers, and (someone's pet peeve from another thread) carry my briefcase by the shoulderstrap. Of course, I step in things while wearing my shoes, get caught in the rain and occasionally scratch the toes, but I seem to cause more comparative damage to my suits than I do to my shoes.  I can't imagine buying a $2,000 suit, but I can (almost) imagine buying a $2,000 pair of shoes. Also, on any given day, I can wear a suit or shirt that is a little too small or too large. Granted, I will look silly, and may be a bit embarrassed,  (Today I am wearing a shirt I bought during my student days that has a touch of polyester in it. I am itchy, hot and not too comfortable), but no long term phsical damage will be done. I cannot walk half a block in shoes that are too tight. Of course, just because a shoe is expensive does not necessarily mean that it will be the most comfortable. Also, I note that you suggest that a custom suit feels and looks many multiples better than a standard old RTW mediocre suit.  It's worth that much more.  Perhaps then a better shoe comparison would be a bespoke pair of EG shoes vs. $200 Grensons. I am considering bespoke EG's but cannot imagine whether the added cost will be worth the benefit.   Bic
Well said Bic. l have no problem in falking out $2,000 for a pair of shoes. But l find it hard to falk out over $3,500 for a suit. Of course E.G wouldn't be 3 times better than $200 Grensons. lt is more about buying the best shoes for your feet. l wouldn't even have a problem falking out $5,000 Aust for a pair of Edward Greens be-spoke. (Parting with $8,000 for a pair of Lobbs would be streching it though). l love to spoil my feet. Since you are on them everyday, spoil them with expensive shoos.
post #29 of 33
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[ l have no problem in falking out $2,000 for a pair of shoes. But l find it hard to falk out over $3,500 for a suit. Of course E.G wouldn't be 3 times better than $200 Grensons. lt is more about buying the best shoes for your feet. l wouldn't even have a problem falking out $5,000 Aust for a pair of Edward Greens be-spoke. (Parting with $8,000 for a pair of Lobbs would be streching it though). l love to spoil my feet. Since you are on them everyday, spoil them with expensive shoos.
Have you ever spent $2000 on a pair of shoes? You talk all the time about your shoe collection, your clogs, and your outlandish boots, but for a self-professed "shoo" [sic] aficionado, you don't seem to have much in the way of actual quality shoe experience.
post #30 of 33
I remember a quote from a movie or something: "Food, shoes or sex...... money is no object." If you're going to wear them for years, they wind up costing pennies a day (and feel better with each wearing.)
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