Originally Posted by LA Guy
Re-wash Indigo. It'll bleed like crazy (just like the old days. Ernest, I'm warning you that Levis made for different markets are significantly different. The American 501s tend to be of cheaper fabric and be higher waisted than those made for European markets. It's like Italian suits made for the U.S. market, which tend to be more generously cut *and* have double pleats, something (just ask Chuck of Carlo Franco) that is just not the norm for suits made for the European market. Just so you know.
I just got some levis 511s from e-bay for Â£18 including shipping, brand new with Macy's tags (no question that they're genuine), but they are far inferior to the quality of standard red tab 511s that retail in the UK for Â£75 ($150).
Also reading posts on levis by American posters, they seem to be seen as low end (on a par with chain store own brands) in the US. In the UK Levis have a 'signature' range which seems to compare with the standard US quality, but the red tab quality is pretty good, with standard 501s retailing at Â£60 - $120 and being to my eye decent quality and well made.
The difference in UK price does not reflect the level of quality difference, there's no way $44 retail 511s are that much worse than the $150 european / uk ones, but there is still a quality gap.
So why such a big difference in two (similar) markets?