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post #1 of 12
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I just bought a jacket (goretex shell and fleece inside) made by The North Face on ebay, and now I am hearing grumblings about how there are North Face fakes out there. How can you tell if it's a fake? btw-mine had all tags on it, all North Face stuff about the Goretex, etc.
post #2 of 12
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35 views in an hour and no one has any idea? Hook a brotha up.
post #3 of 12
If you put up the ebay link (or at the very least, the item number), somebody might be able to help....
post #4 of 12
There are fakes out there. From what I've heard, the fakes have non goretex fabric. So go put it on, run your arm under a faucet and see if you get wet. If so, it's fake. If not, and everything else seems right, does it matter whether it's fake?
post #5 of 12
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I dont have the ebay link, I bought this over 90 days ago, so its lost from the ebay system. The jacket is waterproof, I have worn it in the rain plenty of times. Regardless, I want to know if it's fake. I paid a decent amount for it, and would not have, had I known its a fraud.
post #6 of 12
Probably not a fake, but if you got it on Ebay at a significant but not outrageous, could be an inferior product made specifically for the Northface outlets. I don't know how to differentiate between these and the stuff they sell in non-discount outlets, however.
post #7 of 12
I've been looking at buying a North Face McMurdo parka on eBay for some time, but have some serious doubts about the authenticity of what's being sold. For one thing, the fabric doesn't seem to be quite right - too shiny. For another, the McMurdo parkas on eBay are available in colours other than those that the North Face's website advertises.
post #8 of 12
j: The faucet test may be good enough... But technically it isn't. 1) It may proof there is a waterproof lining. But it doesn't proof a breathable one. It could be coated nylon 2) There are gore-tex alternatives (cheaper) which could have been used. However... I don't imagine anyone using any good material in a fake.
post #9 of 12
That's what I mean, what I've heard about the fakes is that they are made of non waterproof material. Personally, if it worked like goretex, I wouldn't care if it were authentic. But that's just me.
post #10 of 12
An idea might be to check for sealing of the seams on the jacket. That's something someone making a knock-off might not go to the trouble to do.
post #11 of 12
North Face is a brand that is heavily counterfeited. My brother was just in China and found North Face jackets in plentiful supply at the street markets. My understanding is that some of them may be overruns from the actual factories that manufacture for North Face and others are plain faked.
post #12 of 12
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North Face is a brand that is heavily counterfeited.  My brother was just in China and found North Face jackets in plentiful supply at the street markets. My understanding is that some of them may be overruns from the actual factories that manufacture for North Face and others are plain faked.
A real quick overview of what I know on the subject: Yes, the North Face jacket is the knock-about-tog (and knock-off) for expats in Beijing. There are usually three "types" of North Face in China and they go from about US$10 to US$30 (and possibly more) depending upon how well you bargain and what street market you go to. 1) Real NF that's "fallen off the truck", as it were; or that were over-runs that came into street-market circulation. 2) Rejects from factory -- imperfections vary. 3) Counterfeit NF -- using sub-par material (fabric, thread, metal components like snaps, etc), sometimes using authentic tooling (for logo, cut, etc). In case of authentic tooling, these are made from same factory that makes NF; while others are made elsewhere. I bought a fake one for US$16 that was water-proof and held up well. Others, above, have made good comments on what to look for in determing fakes, esp. seams. Also another thing is the zip-in liner. This can be bad quality. It can be really cheap material and it cannot really fit well into the shell of the jacket. Sometimes snaps are poor quality. That's an element of clothing that requires a relatively expensive tool-and-die making operation. So you can sometimes spot a fake when certain technologies are needed. One way to test these things is that they'll fall apart in really hard use within a year or two. But that's really hard use. And most people don't put them through it. I don't know enough about fabrics, like gore-tex to automatically spot whether the fabric is true or not. But I think if you know your fabrics it's relatively easy to spot. Sometimes you can look at tags inside -- the printing won't be straight, the zippers used to be shoddy, but the YKK zipper is everywhere and I think it's pretty cheap to use them, as well as some of these other materials that used to be instant signs of the fake.
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