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post #31 of 58
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On the other hand, in my entire career, I have had one R-T-W manufacturer send me a shirt and say - "Take it apart and tell me how to make it better no matter what it costs."
so, if you dont mind sharing, what pearls of wisdom did Alex impart when he dissected your shirt Chuck?
post #32 of 58
LOL, thanks Matt. Many minor points that would not be immediately apparent and some others of our own going into the next generation. I'll be doing a point by point summary on our website once we've finalized the new shirt. We're supposed to be in Italy right now... Pope's passing has made that impractical and slowed down everything. Not that I am FRUSTRATED or anything. Chuck
post #33 of 58
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We're supposed to be in Italy right now... Pope's passing has made that impractical and slowed down everything. Not that I am FRUSTRATED or anything.
so selfish of the pope to meddle with your travel plans. what was he thinking?
post #34 of 58
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Those of you who have bought these fine shirts, can you offer me some advice on collar sizes? My neck size is 16.5 and, for most shirt brands, I usually buy a size 17, to account for shrinkage. For most shirts (e.g., Brioni, Charvet, Lorenzini, Zegna, etc.), this seems to work well for me. The one exception is Borrelli: their 16.5 RTW shirt is very close to a 17, so I buy 16.5 . From what I've gathered, the Carlo Franco shirts are similar to Borrelli in this regard, correct? Many thanks.
DRLJVA ~ I don't think anyone ever answered your question. Our 16.5 measures 17" from the middle of the button to the middle of the buttonhole. This allows for 1/4" - 1/2" shrinkage (depending on how carefully you launder/dry them).
post #35 of 58
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Those of you who have bought these fine shirts, can you offer me some advice on collar sizes? My neck size is 16.5 and, for most shirt brands, I usually buy a size 17, to account for shrinkage. For most shirts (e.g., Brioni, Charvet, Lorenzini, Zegna, etc.), this seems to work well for me. The one exception is Borrelli: their 16.5 RTW shirt is very close to a 17, so I buy 16.5 . From what I've gathered, the Carlo Franco shirts are similar to Borrelli in this regard, correct? Many thanks.
DRLJVA ~ I don't think anyone ever answered your question. Our 16.5 measures 17" from the middle of the button to the middle of the buttonhole. This allows for 1/4" - 1/2" shrinkage (depending on how carefully you launder/dry them).
Jill- Let me follow-up. If the neck is 17", what will the chest measurements be like. I have 43" chest and I am worried about it swimming. Thanks.
post #36 of 58
Marc237~ Do you wear a 43 jacket? Or is your chest measurement actually 43" (which would indicate a 39-40 size jacket)? As "Carlo" mentioned in an earlier post, this is more of a Italian cut, than American blousy cut. It's not SLIM or FITTED, bit it doesn't billow either. I'll go get a 17 out of Chuck's closet to measure for you...
post #37 of 58
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Marc237~ Do you wear a 43 jacket? Or is your chest measurement actually 43" (which would indicate a 39-40 size jacket)? As "Carlo" mentioned in an earlier post, this is more of a Italian cut, than American blousy cut. It's not SLIM or FITTED, bit it doesn't billow either. I'll go get a 17 out of Chuck's closet to measure for you...
I wear a 43R or 44R inch sport coat depending on the cut. I assumed that to mean a 43" inch chest since the sport/suit coat measure is more likley to be a 46" or 47" inch circumfrence at the chest.
post #38 of 58
Exactly. OK, on Chuck's 17, after being machine-washed and line-dried a handful of times, the neck measures just under 17.25 from middle of buttonhole to middle of button. Armpit seam to armpit seam is 48".  Chuck wears a size 44 jacket but he has he-man pecs and shoulders.  The shirts fits him beautifully, IMHO.
post #39 of 58
When measuring a collar's actual size measure from the middle of the button to the end of the buttonhole where the button sits, not to the middle of the buttonhole, where the button should not be sitting.
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(Jill) OK, Chuck's 17, after being machine-washed and line-dried a handful of times, the neck measures just under 17.25 from middle of buttonhole to middle of button.
post #40 of 58
Right. I was just stating the details of my measurement for the sake of comparison (to an existing, well-fitting shirt). As long as one is comparing apple with apples, then the desired info can be determined. None the less, thank you for the proper instructions.
post #41 of 58
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Exactly. OK, Chuck's 17, after being machine-washed and line-dried a handful of times, the neck measures just under 17.25 from middle of buttonhole to middle of button. Armpit seam to armpit seam is 48".  Chuck wears a size 44 jacket but he has he-man pecs and shoulders.  The shirts fit hims beautifully, IMHO.
Would you be kind enough to measure post-multi-washing sleeve length. I ordered a 17x35. On other less illustrious brands I sometimes get 17x36 to account for shrinkage. -
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OTW, did you check the inventory chart to see if there are any more available in your size? Just click on the "Live Chat" button, and I'll hold for you anything you want.
Yes, as luck would have it, you have more in my size. However, the depleting bank account may not be able to sustain it just yet. -
post #42 of 58
On shrinkage - I really haven't seen much in any of our fabrics.  I'd say MINIMAL.  Naturally if you toss them in the dryer on the hottest setting cotton will shrink a bit but in all honesty I have neither seen it nor had it reported back to me.  After a few thousand shirts I would have heard if it was a problem.  The only real complaint I've heard about was button crushing cleaners and Yoda Kabbaz has the best advice on that one - get a new cleaners. On the second issue, I feel your pain :-)   Life's little annoyances (like the new battery and starter I needed this week) get in the way of more important things... like ties, shirts and shoes :-) I need to find a mechanic who likes ties....
post #43 of 58
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...The only real complaint I've heard about was button crushing cleaners and Yoda Kabbaz has the best advice on that one - get a new cleaners.
Yoda Kabbaz..heh..that made me stop to read that twice. The stitching is strong with this one...
post #44 of 58
Since when did your Little Red Wagon have a battery?
post #45 of 58
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(Carlo @ April 13 2005,15:12) ...The only real complaint I've heard about was button crushing cleaners and Yoda Kabbaz has the best advice on that one - get a new cleaners.
Yoda Kabbaz..heh..that made me stop to read that twice. The stitching is strong with this one...
Thats cus his medicloth count is high... Jon.
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