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post #61 of 190
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Anyway, re: the picture above ^, that natural guy obviously is just not working as hard as Ronnie. Not even close. I mean, he's so much smaller! I bet if he did walking lunges in a parking lot he'd get REALLY big. He needs to man up and go balls to the wall in the gym. Or maybe he wasn't born during the right moon cycle.

Or maybe he forgot to take his Vitamin S.

Your sarcasm is unwarranted. The fact is there is no magic drug to make a person grow big. If there were, you bet many rogue states like Iran and North Korea would pump their soldiers full of it regardless of legality and health hazards.

It is very sad that people here choose to mock and ignore the truth in front of their faces and quit even before they are to start working out hard.

So sad. its one thing to have limitations imposed on yourself, its another to impose it on oneself.
post #62 of 190
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If there were, you bet many rogue states like Iran and North Korea would pump their soldiers full of it regardless of legality and health hazards.

Sorry. But they wouldn't. I am quite sure there is pretty much no hand to hand combat in warfare these days, and if there is a case or two it makes no difference. Just because you are bigger, you are not more able to sustain a M249 round to the head let alone an AA12 round. Instead insurgents in Afghanistan/Iraq use PCP, PCP derivatives and other drugs to blunt pain because with a high enough dosage they can withstand body and tertiary shots with limited physical pain and essentially no mental pain.
post #63 of 190
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The fact is there is no magic drug to make a person grow big.

If this is true, why are there so many professional athletes, including Raphael Palmeiro and Barry Bonds who took Winstrol, that risk their reputation and career to improve their strength and abilities through illegal methods? Furthermore, if this where true, why do all these professional associations decide to ban certain substances?

If I were to take HGH or Winstrol and sit and do literally nothing, then the effects would be likley be very minimal. But if I am already a professional or competetive athlete with a rigorous workout regiment, then a substance like Winstrol, which is privately patented, and approved by the FDA, is going to be an impressive option.

Hell from knowing that it adds lean muscle mass with little to no extra fat gained, as well as not degenerating into estrogen makes it enticing already, not to mention sister drugs like Miotolan.
post #64 of 190
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Originally Posted by rjmaiorano View Post
Sorry. But they wouldn't. I am quite sure there is pretty much no hand to hand combat in warfare these days, and if there is a case or two it makes no difference. Just because you are bigger, you are not more able to sustain a M249 round to the head let alone an AA12 round. Instead insurgents in Afghanistan/Iraq use PCP, PCP derivatives and other drugs to blunt pain because with a high enough dosage they can withstand body and tertiary shots with limited physical pain and essentially no mental pain.

Yes, there aint no need for a John Rambo.

But I would rather have some muscular guy than some scrawny twerp carrying M-16s patrolling, doing door to door searches for Osama, laying the law down in Camp Abu Ghraib.

And if its so easy to be muscular like what is alleged by green eyed lazy ass self proclaimed bodybuilders here, the world will be full of muscle bound freaks who were previously insecure sad cases.
post #65 of 190
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Originally Posted by rjmaiorano View Post
If this is true, why are there so many professional athletes, including Raphael Palmeiro and Barry Bonds who took Winstrol, that risk their reputation and career to improve their strength and abilities through illegal methods? Furthermore, if this where true, why do all these professional associations decide to ban certain substances?

If I were to take HGH or Winstrol and sit and do literally nothing, then the effects would be likley be very minimal. But if I am already a professional or competetive athlete with a rigorous workout regiment, then a substance like Winstrol, which is privately patented, and approved by the FDA, is going to be an impressive option.

Hell from knowing that it adds lean muscle mass with little to no extra fat gained, as well as not degenerating into estrogen makes it enticing already, not to mention sister drugs like Miotolan.

Are you saying by taking these things and exercising, you would be as big as Ronnie? If so, you would have a new Mr Olympia every year and its not possible for Ronnie to be repeated Champ or Dorian or Lee or Arnold.

Kim Jong Il with a fistful of drugs and some iron can get a troop of mastadons that will make South Korea crap blood. Ditto for Osama.

The fact is these are just convenient excuses losers cite not to work hard in the gym.
post #66 of 190
Staggering display of logical reasoning, beasty. One day you will convert them as you have converted me. Until then, don't give up the fight! I know Jay wouldn't.

post #67 of 190
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Are you saying by taking these things and exercising, you would be as big as Ronnie?

?

Yes, Yes I am. Likely bigger.
post #68 of 190
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So sad. its one thing to have limitations imposed on yourself, its another to impose it on oneself.

I bet if that natural bber on the last page would just escape from the shackles of his self-imposed limitations, he could easily gain another 30-40 pounds. The rest of them too. It's too bad they haven't been able to break free and get REALLY BIG.

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And if its so easy to be muscular like what is alleged by green eyed lazy ass self proclaimed bodybuilders here, the world will be full of muscle bound freaks who were previously insecure sad cases.

*gasp* You might have just insulted Ronnie.


I have a hard time understanding how it is that you can so persistently misunderstand our opinion of people like Ronnie and Jay. And then make assumptions about what we do or do not do in the gym, when you're the one with such poor motor control that you can't learn to front squat an empty bar.
post #69 of 190
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The fact is these are just convenient excuses losers cite not to work hard in the gym.
....coming from the guy who finds front squats too hard..? EDIT: ^^^ Philosoph beat me to it..
post #70 of 190
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I have a hard time understanding how it is that you can so persistently misunderstand our opinion of people like Ronnie and Jay. And then make assumptions about what we do or do not do in the gym, when you're the one with such poor motor control that you can't learn to front squat an empty bar.

You don't understand beasty's method, Philosoph. Keep making your excuses; beasty and I will be in the gym while you complain about how everyone who's bigger than you has been taking steroids and hormones. Look us up again when you're ready to become an Imaginaut.
post #71 of 190
Argh!.... cut to the quick.... I'm afraid I'll never be the equal of Iron Jay in all his Oompa Loompa glory.
post #72 of 190
The mysterious path of the Imaginaut only looks foolish before you have walked it.
post #73 of 190
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Originally Posted by rjmaiorano View Post
?

Yes, Yes I am. Likely bigger.

Please supply real life pictures as evidence.
post #74 of 190
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Originally Posted by Philosoph View Post
I bet if that natural bber on the last page would just escape from the shackles of his self-imposed limitations, he could easily gain another 30-40 pounds. The rest of them too. It's too bad they haven't been able to break free and get REALLY BIG.



*gasp* You might have just insulted Ronnie.


I have a hard time understanding how it is that you can so persistently misunderstand our opinion of people like Ronnie and Jay. And then make assumptions about what we do or do not do in the gym, when you're the one with such poor motor control that you can't learn to front squat an empty bar.

I dont know why that natural bodybuilder is so small in comparison to Jay. Maybe in his competition, being small is more advantageous. But since you are being such a smarty mouth, why dont you explain why this is so, without resorting to baseless slurrings and allegations of drug taking. You would find it is so easy to criticise and critique and make excuses but when it comes to making a stand, you people clam up quickly.

Please also state what is your opinion of people like Ronnie and Jay and how I have supposedly misunderstood your opinion.
post #75 of 190
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....coming from the guy who finds front squats too hard..?

EDIT: ^^^ Philosoph beat me to it..

I didnt say I couldnt front squat or it is too hard. I said it produces less advantages to me than a normal squat. If you want to do unnatural and painful exercises in the hope it can make you better, be my guest.
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