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post #16 of 26
HF is having a MTM suit and shirt trunk sale at Nordstrom's Denver (Cherry Creek) in April.


Twotone
post #17 of 26
what brand is that tie? I want an exact tie like that.....
post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by Mark from Plano View Post
AFAIK all HF is fully canvassed. However, I suspect that the choice of fabrics will be fairly limited at that price. At the Nordstrom summer sale last year (Anniversary Sale? Whatever it's called it's in about June or July) they had certain MTM suit fabrics on sale for around $900 IIRC. The fabric I chose (in my picture above) was a bit higher priced and I think that my 3 piece wound up in the $1300-1400 range (including the vest).


Hickey Freeman "LTD" is fused, or at least the ones I saw in Syms for $300 were.

This sounds like a great deal. For comparison, with basic fabrics, Brooks Brothers MTM is $1450 during the "event" they have going on now. Vests are an additional $283.
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by Mark from Plano View Post
AFAIK all HF is fully canvassed. However, I suspect that the choice of fabrics will be fairly limited at that price. At the Nordstrom summer sale last year (Anniversary Sale? Whatever it's called it's in about June or July) they had certain MTM suit fabrics on sale for around $900 IIRC. The fabric I chose (in my picture above) was a bit higher priced and I think that my 3 piece wound up in the $1300-1400 range (including the vest).

That is all excellent to know!

BTW, how much flexibility does Hickey Freeman full made to measure have compared to full MTM from Samuelsohn, Canali, Oxxford and Brioni?

FWIW, when I say full MTM (which is the only MTM that Oxxford and Brioni have), I mean MTM with a sizeable amount more flexibility or much more flexibility than ready to wear and not MTM that is really made to order with little more flexibility than RTW.
post #20 of 26
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Hickey Freeman "LTD" is fused, or at least the ones I saw in Syms for $300 were.

This is absolutely true. I forgot about the Ltd. line when I wrote that prior post. However, I don't think that Nordstrom (where I bought mine) offers Ltd. in their MTM program.

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That is all excellent to know!

BTW, how much flexibility does Hickey Freeman full made to measure have compared to full MTM from Samuelsohn, Canali, Oxxford and Brioni?

FWIW, when I say full MTM (which is the only MTM that Oxxford and Brioni have), I mean MTM with a sizeable amount more flexibility or much more flexibility than ready to wear and not MTM that is really made to order with little more flexibility than RTW.

I'm afraid you'll have to be a bit more specific when you talk about flexibility. I'll try to answer the question, but I may not hit what you're getting at. Also, I can't compare to these other programs because I've never used them.

The HF MTM program uses measurements (chest, waist, hips, inseam, outseam, etc.) as it's starting point. However, they are (I suspect) using that to match you up with a standard size (in my case 42L jacket with 38 trousers...note to self: go to the gym). The jacket and trousers then come pretty much adjusted to fit. Small tweaks may be needed.

The cut of the jacket is based on the standard HF silouette (Madison, Regent*, etc.) in various configurations on both the jacket (1BPL, 2B, 3B, 2/3, DB etc.) and trousers (flat front or pleated).

Additionally, you can order a number of different "extras" for very small additional charges. On the trousers some of these might include: hidden watch pocket on trousers, heel guards, cuffs, suspender buttons, etc. On the jacket some of these might include: ticket pocket, pic stitching, special linings, working cuff buttons, etc.

Also, you have the option to add (at additional cost) a second pair of trousers and/or a vest. The vest is based on one of several basic configurations, including SB w/o lapels, SB w/lapels or DB.

Generally, on the two I've ordered the fit has been pretty close. However, some fit issues do have to be resolved at the retailer. In my case I often wind up with "wings" behind my arms where the back needs to be taken in through the arm holes. The Nordstrom tailors did this. They also tweaked the fit of the jacket and did some pretty substantial modifications to the fit of the vest to get a good "touch" fit. Any major changes are noted in the computer file for HF to make adjustments to future orders in the factory.

I ordered my last one (from the picture above) with working button holes. The sleeves came unfinished and the button holes were added by the retailer. My understanding is that now that the exact length has been determined, any future orders should come with working button holes from HF.

Not sure if this answers your questions or not.

* Sorry I meant Barrett. Regent is, I believe, the HF silouette that they make exclusively for NM. Though I'm going from memory so that may be wrong also.
post #21 of 26
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what brand is that tie? I want an exact tie like that.....

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post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by Mark from Plano View Post
This is absolutely true. I forgot about the Ltd. line when I wrote that prior post. However, I don't think that Nordstrom (where I bought mine) offers Ltd. in their MTM program.



I'm afraid you'll have to be a bit more specific when you talk about flexibility. I'll try to answer the question, but I may not hit what you're getting at. Also, I can't compare to these other programs because I've never used them.

The HF MTM program uses measurements (chest, waist, hips, inseam, outseam, etc.) as it's starting point. However, they are (I suspect) using that to match you up with a standard size (in my case 42L jacket with 38 trousers...note to self: go to the gym). The jacket and trousers then come pretty much adjusted to fit. Small tweaks may be needed.

The cut of the jacket is based on the standard HF silouette (Madison, Regent*, etc.) in various configurations on both the jacket (1BPL, 2B, 3B, 2/3, DB etc.) and trousers (flat front or pleated).

Additionally, you can order a number of different "extras" for very small additional charges. On the trousers some of these might include: hidden watch pocket on trousers, heel guards, cuffs, suspender buttons, etc. On the jacket some of these might include: ticket pocket, pic stitching, special linings, working cuff buttons, etc.

Also, you have the option to add (at additional cost) a second pair of trousers and/or a vest. The vest is based on one of several basic configurations, including SB w/o lapels, SB w/lapels or DB.

Generally, on the two I've ordered the fit has been pretty close. However, some fit issues do have to be resolved at the retailer. In my case I often wind up with "wings" behind my arms where the back needs to be taken in through the arm holes. The Nordstrom tailors did this. They also tweaked the fit of the jacket and did some pretty substantial modifications to the fit of the vest to get a good "touch" fit. Any major changes are noted in the computer file for HF to make adjustments to future orders in the factory.

I ordered my last one (from the picture above) with working button holes. The sleeves came unfinished and the button holes were added by the retailer. My understanding is that now that the exact length has been determined, any future orders should come with working button holes from HF.

Not sure if this answers your questions or not.

* Sorry I meant Barrett. Regent is, I believe, the HF silouette that they make exclusively for NM. Though I'm going from memory so that may be wrong also.

That all sounds about right. Thank you, Mark.
post #23 of 26
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Robert Talbott Best of Class

is this tie currently available or is it something you bought years ago? if you can find another exact tie like that, i'll gladly pay a finder's fee
post #24 of 26
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is this tie currently available or is it something you bought years ago? if you can find another exact tie like that, i'll gladly pay a finder's fee


I bought it at Nordstrom last year (thinking late summer or fall).
post #25 of 26

Its not a true MTM experience. They do some measurement's but not all measurement's needed to make it a true MTM experience. Also to limit yourself to one brand when spending $1k is not necessary. I carry fabric's from Holland and Sherry(high-end), Thomas Fisher(they start at $1k per suit) and my Tailors house line of fabrics that can start as low as $700. http://www.facebook.com/PeterMcKenzieClothing Like our page on Facebook and enter to win a free shirt.

post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by Mark from Plano View Post

I have two HF MTM suits that I like very much and paid much more than $1000 for both of them. I find that the construction on them is better than some of the MTM Hong Kong suits that I have. Here's a pic of one of mine:


FYI, I think you generally want to "show" 2 vest buttons when the jacket is buttoned. Since it looks like a straight up 3 button jacket, it doesn't work as well as a 3 piece. I'd go with a true 2 button or 3 roll 2 with a 3 piece next time. Just a thought.
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