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post #31 of 43
I enjoy a little tie space myself.
post #32 of 43
The rule is that you should have sufficent space in the collar to allow for the knott of the tie. The bigger you choose to go with the knott the more space you should have in the neck to allow for it.
post #33 of 43
I like 3/8 - 1/2" space, which may be considered excessive, especially with a spread collar. What I abhor is seeing any part of the shirt above the tie.
post #34 of 43
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
Tie space is, IMO, a necessity with a BD collar, a tab collar, or a closed point collar, and with certain pinned collars..

+1. Otherwise there is no space for the tie knot, due to the close angle of the collar points. The top of the knot struggles with the base of the collar points. Depending on the thickness of the tie, the know either gets lost under the collar points, or pushes them awkwardly. It looks awful.

I have had one shirt with closed point collar made. Extremely long (4") collar points and no tie space. It definitely looks "Good Fellas"-like. Fun to wear occasionally, when going out, but definitely not a look for the office.
post #35 of 43
can not do the tie space, it looks like the neck doesnt fit, at least on me.
post #36 of 43
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Originally Posted by Kent Wang View Post
Manton, can you explain this?

I think collars with narrow openings swallow up and cover the tie knot too much if there is no tie space. A spread collar still allows the knot to show itself in all its glory.
post #37 of 43
I see. How does this also apply to BD collars? I don't necessarily see them with having narrow openings.
post #38 of 43
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
I think collars with narrow openings swallow up and cover the tie knot too much if there is no tie space. A spread collar still allows the knot to show itself in all its glory.

I agree with this theorem - however, I still prefer the more hexagonal geometry of the knot achieved by adding tie space, even to spread collars. Maybe this should go in the "inferior things that you still prefer" thread...
post #39 of 43
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Originally Posted by Kent Wang View Post
I see.

How does this also apply to BD collars? I don't necessarily see them with having narrow openings.

Well, I don't like spread BDs. In any case, tradition sort of demands tie space on a BD, no matter how open it is.
post #40 of 43
How much are we talking about here? 1/8"?
post #41 of 43
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Originally Posted by Kent Wang View Post
How much are we talking about here? 1/8"?

I get 3/4" on my BDs.
post #42 of 43
I've always liked this type of no tie-space button down collar. (Bobby Rydell - 1950's)
post #43 of 43
I get 1/4-1/2"
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