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post #16 of 23
3/5/08 at 1:07am
Tipping is the privilege of an effectively self-regulating population of restaurant patrons.

If we did not make a custom of tipping servers, restaurants would have to pay them higher wages--this would either increase the cost of food on the menu, or (more likely) induce a service charge. It's only because Americans are pretty accurate tippers that we get to tip instead of being forced to pay a pre-set amount (which, in turn, lowers your server's incentive to do his job well).

Tip appropriately, or you'll f*ck up this sweet deal for the rest of us.
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post #17 of 23
3/5/08 at 1:56am
I do not mind tipping 20% for outstanding service where I feel it. Sadly I rarely feel it even at the top NYC places. I tip anyhow because when I come back they remember and it has its perks.
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post #18 of 23
3/5/08 at 2:03am
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That's not always true, Europe has managed to keep the cost of dining out reasonable and they don't rush you out the door in 30 minutes. Again, when service is superior I tip accordingly (well above 15%) because it's is just so freaking rare.
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post #19 of 23
3/7/08 at 9:50am
You guys should move to Australia. Waiters get paid $15 an hour (one of my friends gets paid $20 and he's only a junior), the service isn't bad, and if waiters give bad service, we have a good ol' fashioned idea called "fire incompetant staff".
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post #20 of 23
3/7/08 at 4:11pm
here's a 21st century tip: don't eat yellow snow.
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post #21 of 23
3/10/08 at 11:44am
it is easy to debate the theoretical issues with tipping, the compensation structure in american restaurants etc. however the waiters & bartenders that serve me depend on my tips to survive and i will gladly support them for a job well done and i also tip better at my 'regular' spots (and am taken care of better because of this). perhaps i am biased because i was a waiter throughout highschool & most of college. if someone can't handle this they should stay home and cook for themselves.
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post #22 of 23
3/13/08 at 12:52am
Not true.

For many erotic services, tipping is not obligatory so I usually bring gifts.
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post #23 of 23
3/13/08 at 8:37am
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Originally Posted by bant View Post
it is easy to debate the theoretical issues with tipping, the compensation structure in american restaurants etc. however the waiters & bartenders that serve me depend on my tips to survive and i will gladly support them for a job well done
Assuming the job is actually "well done". A lot of waiters do nothing more than the minimal (take order, give food), and very few actually go out of their way to make dining a pleasant experience.

The fact is, restaurants still charge a big premium - part of that $50 bill goes into the waiter's standard service. Good tips are really only for waiters who actually go beyond the McDonalds routine. Otherwise, there's no difference between that restaurant and McDonalds.

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if someone can't handle this they should stay home and cook for themselves.
I hope you didn't say this to diners when you were a waiter...
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