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post #706 of 1303
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Originally Posted by Burton View Post

Fritzl, perhaps you can pass this question on to someone you know or help answer it yourself. On a recent trip to Germany I stopped in a shop in Munich (Schuhmanufaktur Danis) to purchase a pair of Vass shoes. There was a woman working in the store (I believe her name was Maria) who was very helpful and tried tirelessly to find a pair of shoes with a good fit. In the end, she said "you need the banana last." That was the first I had ever heard of the banana last - or a banana last of any kind. I did a search of this forum and the web and the information available on the banana last is, to say the least, sketchy.
You can find that information here: http://www.styleforum.net/t/10286/banana-last#post_113349
Just looking to get a good understanding of the banana last in general and why I, or anyone else, would need it. Finally does anyone have pictures of Vass, or other shoes in the AH school, on the banana last?

It is not an A-H firm, but Alden's makes the Modified Last, which is a banana last.

Edit: Here is photo of the insole, to give you an idea of the shape: 467
post #707 of 1303
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

It is not an A-H firm, but Alden's makes the Modified Last, which is a banana last.

every information is helpful to get a picture of the individual decision. thanks for stopping by...
post #708 of 1303
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Originally Posted by Knowledge is King View Post

Do a google image search for Vass "Banana Last" and you should get should decent images. There are some pretty good results if you search for Japanese websites too. Banana shaped lasts are popular in Japan because they tend to fit the Japanese foot well (which helps to explain why the Alden modified last is so popular in Japan)
There's also a few more shots in the Vass catalog: http://jdelage.public.s3.amazonaws.com/Vass%20Shoes.pdf
This pair of Vass Banana Last belongs to forum member BrianSD (posted in the shoe pictorial index thread)

Another pic. The Banana last shoe is the fourth shoe from the right, front row
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Fabulous!
Which last is the one third from right next to the banana?
post #709 of 1303
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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post

how does it differ from the budapester last?
many thanks

There is no Budapester last per se as far as Vass is concerned..so I will refer the Budapest last with 3636
the difference is quite noticeable in terms of the toe shark mouth vs more rounded, vamp area more narrow and sleeker than the wider 3636.
Here are some pictures that probably will illustrate the differences better than I can explain...

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post #710 of 1303
The shoe third from the right, front row looks like F last to me

Here's the original post that shows a few more pics: http://www.styleforum.net/t/14906/shoe-damage-report-porn-central-part-i/9315#post_1937652

Sole of the Banana last:
img3343g.jpg
post #711 of 1303
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Originally Posted by sstomcat View Post

Fabulous!
Which last is the one third from right next to the banana?

Yes, looks like the F last
post #712 of 1303
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Originally Posted by sstomcat View Post

There is no Budapester last per se as far as Vass is concerned.. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
so I will refer the Budapest last with 3636
the difference is quite noticeable in terms of the toe shark mouth vs more rounded, vamp area more narrow and sleeker than the wider 3636.
Here are some pictures that probably will illustrate the differences better than I can explain...
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467

well, the last name is budapester as the name of this shark mouth style is. budapest is the name of the city and an abbreviation in english language.

same goes for wiener last and model. city is called vienna. in german it is wien and the wiener last in vass terminology is called 3636.
post #713 of 1303
Here is a blog post I came across (in Japanese) about a trip to Vass. There are some really good comparison pics between the Edward Green 202 Chelsea and the Vass Budapester on the 3636

http://fwtw.net/blog/2009/03/01000000.html

Google Translated (which doesn't work that well):
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffwtw.net%2Fblog%2F2009%2F03%2F01000000.html&act=url
post #714 of 1303
and another random Japanese blog post with pics (make sure you scroll down all the way -- there are a bunch of pics):

http://ameblo.jp/magyarferficipo/
post #715 of 1303
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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post

well, the last name is budapester as the name of this shark mouth style is. budapest is the name of the city and an abbreviation in english language.
same goes for wiener last and model. city is called vienna. in german it is wien and the wiener last in vass terminology is called 3636.

Vass calls it Budapest atleast on their English website.
post #716 of 1303
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Originally Posted by Knowledge is King View Post

Here is a blog post I came across (in Japanese) about a trip to Vass. There are some really good comparison pics between the Edward Green 202 Chelsea and the Vass Budapester on the 3636
http://fwtw.net/blog/2009/03/01000000.html
Google Translated (which doesn't work that well):
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffwtw.net%2Fblog%2F2009%2F03%2F01000000.html&act=url

You are the king! thanks
post #717 of 1303
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Originally Posted by sstomcat View Post

Vass calls it Budapest atleast on their English website.

that's what i said...
post #718 of 1303
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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post

well, the last name is budapester as the name of this shark mouth style is. budapest is the name of the city and an abbreviation in english language.
same goes for wiener last and model. city is called vienna. in german it is wien and the wiener last in vass terminology is called 3636.

So it's correct to say "this year I will go to Budapest to purchase a Budapester in the Budapest last?" smile.gif

Do you know why the style is called Alt Wien (old Vienna)?
post #719 of 1303
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Originally Posted by rikod View Post

So it's correct to say "this year I will go to Budapest to purchase a Budapester in the Budapest last?" smile.gif

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Originally Posted by rikod View Post

Do you know why the style is called Alt Wien (old Vienna)?

not exactly. according to what i have been tought:

wiener = with medaillon
alt wiener = without medaillon

tbh, i haven't found a source, where this is explained. it's been pictured in old ludwig reiter catalogues. no explanation, though.
i'm pretty sure mr. materna can answer this and i'll give you an update then.
post #720 of 1303
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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post

that's what i said...
yep you are right!
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