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post #136 of 1254
5/12/09 at 1:33pm
Those are wonderful shoes, and all handmade! Its amazing how craftsmen exist out there, making beautiful shoes like this, but charging less than the designer pieces of shit that are spewed out of factories on assembly lines..
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post #137 of 1254
5/12/09 at 2:59pm
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a shoe in progress:













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post #138 of 1254
5/12/09 at 6:05pm
Great pics, fritzl!

Although I am not a fan of the (sturdy) Austro-Hungarian lasts (and I am Austrian! ), the level of craftmanship shown in the pics above and in the whole thread is impressive...
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post #139 of 1254
5/12/09 at 6:43pm
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the man who built more than 5000 pair of shoes...





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Who is this "man"? Maybe he would deserve to mention his name.. (sorry if I missed it)
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post #140 of 1254
5/12/09 at 6:58pm
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Who is this "man"? Maybe he would deserve to mention his name.. (sorry if I missed it)

Kalman Berta. Mentioned above.
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post #141 of 1254
5/12/09 at 9:32pm
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Kalman Berta. Mentioned above.

Kalman Berta is the lastmaker and maker of the trees.

I'll lift the curtain soon. I am proud to be part in "operation paprika", cheers
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post #142 of 1254
5/12/09 at 9:34pm
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Who is this "man"? Maybe he would deserve to mention his name.. (sorry if I missed it)

he is the man and he is my personal hero...
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post #143 of 1254
5/13/09 at 6:17am
These shoes look wonderful. I especially like the norwegians. I am also interested in if there is a historical reason for the preference for derby style shoes.
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post #144 of 1254
5/13/09 at 7:21am
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I am also interested in if there is a historical reason for the preference for derby style shoes.

it's just a guess:



Bilgeri Stiefel
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post #145 of 1254
5/13/09 at 10:16am
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Kalman Berta. Mentioned above.

Kalman Berta is a lastmaker (and unfortunately he is not active anymore because of a sad accident), but his sons continue the trade. This shoemaker must be in Papa, so I have some ideas who it is. On the other hand - even if they are handmade - I don't like some details in his work. And I say it as a Hungarian shoemaker.
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post #146 of 1254
5/13/09 at 10:32am
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Kalman Berta is a lastmaker (and unfortunately he is not active anymore because of a sad accident), but his sons continue the trade. This shoemaker must be in Papa, so I have some ideas who it is. On the other hand - even if they are handmade - I don't like some details in his work. And I say it as a Hungarian shoemaker.

Kalman Berta died 3 or 4 years ago. his son is the man in the pictures fitting the trees.

no it is not jenö kovacs, who retired five years ago. kalman berta confirmed, that he is still alive. i'll pay him a visit next time i am in pápa.

would you mind discussing details. this thread is also about learning new things and i am interested.
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post #147 of 1254
5/13/09 at 4:18pm
I mean: fashion has changed. No problem with the quality (and if it would be any, I would be the last to mention because of respect), just I would make some things different, like broughing, instead or folded edge (which is - no question about it: very traditional and nice), and some really little things. This man - whoever he is - must be a great master. Clean, nice, precise work - typically austro-hungarian..



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Kalman Berta died 3 or 4 years ago. his son is the man in the pictures fitting the trees.

no it is not jenö kovacs, who retired five years ago. kalman berta confirmed, that he is still alive. i'll pay him a visit next time i am in pápa.

would you mind discussing details. this thread is also about learning new things and i am interested.
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post #148 of 1254
5/14/09 at 12:41pm
And someone asked me about those wrinkles on the vamp. THEY ARE NOT BECAUSE OF THE POOR WORK! Someone put the wrong trees inside - thats all.
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post #149 of 1254
5/14/09 at 1:13pm
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And someone asked me about those wrinkles on the vamp. THEY ARE NOT BECAUSE OF THE POOR WORK! Someone put the wrong trees inside - thats all.

no, marcell not the wrong trees.

the trees have been fitted in a very accurate process. but i takes some time until the trees and a brand new pair of shoes "work" together. the photographer was not aware of this and i didn't think of this either.

it's my fault. i already mentioned this laziness of mine elsewhere.

i rechecked all the shoes a few days ago. no wrinkles at all. well done by master kálmán berta and his assistant.

on a random note, i like the idea, that people ask questions...
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post #150 of 1254
5/18/09 at 2:04pm
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a voice from melbourne
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They arrived only after a week. l am absolutely delighted with the shoos. PERFECT FIT!!! A real glove like fit: couldn't have had them any narrower or shorter.

l'll try and post a topic on this tommorrow with pics.

Lots of Kiss spirit, but also a little bit of fritzl spirit in my shoos also (both are good things).

l'd like to get another Kiss shoo in about 3 - 4 weeks. l'll talk about that tommorrow. l'd like to get 4 or 5 more pair over the year: if any other Kiss in my size comes up, let me know ASAP!
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the shoe in question is a UK 7 and converses to a EU 42.
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