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post #1246 of 1304
Hello everybody,

I've come into the possession of two pairs of shoes, which I believe are by Georg Materna. There is no branding on the shoes themselves, so it would be good to have someone knowledgeable confirm their identity. They came to me in shoebags labelled "Materna-Schuhe by Dellantonio" - I believe Dellantonio is the current owner of the shop - and the sole treatment looks about right. I would particularly appreciate anything Fritzl might have to say about them.

These will be going on B&S: the brown pair are marked a size 8, the black pair a size 9. Both are also marked with a number 5, next to the size number. That could be a width fitting (?).

The brown pair lack the cushion that is usually present, beneath (as in the case of the black pair here) or (more usually) on top of, the insole leather. On both, the insole appears to be one continuous piece of leather. My apologies for the atrocious explanation - I do not have a technical mind! Some pictures of the insoles of the brown pair, though.





And here are the shoes themselves. I assume they are made in box calf like the shoes in the OP, but to be honest I wouldn't trust myself to tell the different between box calf and shell cordovan.

I am a size 9/9.5, so had high hopes for the black pair. However, they are significantly too narrow, albeit I was able to squeeze them on. For reference, the C&J Connaught (236 last) in 9 E fit me perfectly.









And the brown pair in size 8:









Hope the photos are of interest, sorry they aren't of better quality. smile.gif
post #1247 of 1304
They definitely look like Materna to me.
post #1248 of 1304
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Originally Posted by Sterling Gillette View Post

They definitely look like Materna to me.

+1. Nice ones at that.
post #1249 of 1304
Those are beautiful, I only hope that was not a derby.
post #1250 of 1304
Thanks for your comments. It's good to have confirmation that they're Materna's. I've also had a couple of kind messages from Fritzl. I'll stick them on B&S once I've swotted up on what an appropriate price would be.

I love derbies myself, add911, especially on typical central European lasts. Oxfords fit me far better than derbies and I wish the opposite were true. Oh well.
post #1251 of 1304
OK: They're on B&S. Sorry for the plug. happy.gif

I'll make this a slightly more substantive post by mentioning that I recently found in the attic a pair of 'Austro-Hungarian' boots, from the time when those two nations actually were united, in the dual monarchy. One of my great-great-(etc., not going to count)-grandfathers on my dad's side was a Viennese Jew. An interesting character, who spent some of his life working as a spa doctor in Jerusalem. We have some medals which he received when his own Emperor visited the spa. They are really quite extravagant, given that they were probably awarded for splashing water on the old man's eczema...probably well-earned, come to think of it. Anyway, these boots belonged to him. The leather is dry and cracked and so on, but they'd once have been very, very nice, so maybe I'll post photos at some point. Alas, they are not button boots.

I'm a grad student and have already made the fateful decision to specialise in 19th-century America...but I am ever-more fascinated by Austria-Hungary in the same period. Maybe I'll write my thesis on the transnational connecting tissues between blobby lasts in North America and Mitteleuropa.
post #1252 of 1304
The medallion on the black pair is fantastic. I'd roll the dice on those were they a 42.
post #1253 of 1304
This hasnt been mentioned but visitors to vienna can stop by the SHOE museum in the 8th district

http://www.schuhmuseum.at/engl/index_e.html
post #1254 of 1304
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Originally Posted by Trompe le Monde View Post

This hasnt been mentioned but visitors to vienna can stop by the SHOE museum in the 8th districtl

Watch out! - The museum is only open one afternoon per month (unless you come as a group with an additional nine mates):

http://www.schuhmuseum.at/engl/offnungszeiten_e.html
post #1255 of 1304
Shipping from the USA to Austria - Getting from Point A to Point B without getting into a bureaucratic mess:

I had some problems after recently shipping a pair of shoes for repair back to Austria (from my home in the US - I shipped via USPS Priority) - The local post in Austria tried to hit the retailer with a very big tax (maybe VAT) upon receipt of the item. They just can't over the fact that the retailer is not purchasing the item, it is simply an item that has already been purchased by an American and used in the US and is now being shipped back to Austria for repair. For information - I marked the customs form as a "Gift" and added additional insurance, estimating the package value at $800.

The retailer refused to pay the tax on principal (as it was completely inappropriate), refused the delivery from Austria Post and the item was returned to me.

I'm shipping the shoes back to Austria tomorrow and just looking for any recommendations. I am planning to send them again via USPS and mark them "Return/Repair" without any additional insurance. If anyone has any additional guidance I am all ears.

Thanks in advance.

Mike147
post #1256 of 1304
"Returned goods" should work, if seller has the original invoice. Then seller can prove that purchase has been sent back.
post #1257 of 1304
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These shoes are absolutely gorgeous. The wood pegs, waist, and colour are very pretty. Just made the decision to move up to handmade shoes and I'm looking for inspiration. Who makes these and did you think the price was commensurate with regard to their appearance and quality of construction?
post #1258 of 1304

Enjoy gents: Maftei Vienna bespoke pair in a sort of hatch grain calf.

 

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post #1259 of 1304
^^^ sdolina, great looking shoes and a fantastic series of pics! Thanks for posting. Congratulations and wear them in good health. ^^^
post #1260 of 1304
Wonderful shoes Sdolina - they came out great. How do they fit?
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