Austro-Hungarian school of shoemaking

fritzl · Apr 21, 2012

rikod said:
I guess this is the most important part, someone who can not only understand but to do it correctly, and if ones vision have any flaws, fix it.
I recall a forum member in the Vass who had some of his shoes welts trimmed down closer to the uppers, imo his cobbler over did it a bit and it looked too close in the front and not in balance, maybe not too noticeable IRL but it looked that way in close up pics.
I still think thet ishis pair (that prompted my ignorant comment above) would benefit from a job like this. Your pair look very good with a double sole.

- i almost forgot about this. good to bring it back. also for me, it was slightly overdone. honestly, it is more difficult as it seems. it also needs a lot of trust in the person in charge.

- yes, i agree. that's why i mentioned it in the context with ishis pair. well, i know he loves them that way. my statement was meant of what is possible.

i also know, that i'm a lucky bastard that i always had this skillful persons on call. imo, it helps, if you can discuss things like that in person.

sstomcat · Apr 21, 2012

fritzl said:
you're welcome.
only this top view:

I dont quite get the trees ..IMO other than the 2ndfrom the right the fit seems odd.

fritzl · Apr 21, 2012

sstomcat said:
I dont quite get the trees ..IMO other than the 2ndfrom the right the fit seems odd.

thoroughly possible. actually, i do not see the same as you do. some of the possible reasons. insole is removed, i grabbed some trees for the photoshoot, i tried a pair of trees to see how it fits etc., etc. having a certain number of shoes isn't a static situation. anyway.

if you don't mind, i appreciate if you elaborate your observations. i'm always open for opnions to improve the status.

sstomcat · Apr 21, 2012

fritzl said:
thoroughly possible. actually, i do not see the same as you do. some of the possible reasons. insole is removed, i grabbed some trees for the photoshoot, i tried a pair of trees to see how it fits etc., etc. having a certain number of shoes isn't a static situation. anyway.
if you don't mind, i appreciate if you elaborate your observations. i'm always open for opnions to improve the status.

I will try, considering they are Bespoke shoes I would expect they come with lasted trees making them a a snug fit..

In my opinion the from left the vamp seems to be lifted more that it should be, the next two the opening seems to be stretched a tad more resulting in some gaps and the fourth the vamp seems to be creasing up. Again , these are from the pictures that I see....

fritzl · Apr 21, 2012

sstomcat said:
I will try, considering they are Bespoke shoes I would expect they come with lasted trees making them a a snug fit.

not necessarily in hungary. it's always an option with all makers around the world(rule of thumb), at least three piece. i agree, that most people take advantage of it. anyway

sstomcat said:
In my opinion the from left the vamp seems to be lifted more that it should be, the next two the opening seems to be stretched a tad more resulting in some gaps and the fourth the vamp seems to be creasing up. Again , these are from the pictures that I see....

note to myself. don't picture things, which aren't in a perfect status. i shouldn't picture things, which are in the works. lesson learned.

sstomcat · Apr 21, 2012

fritzl said:
not necessarily in hungary. it's always an option with all makers around the world(rule of thumb), at least three piece. i agree, that most people take advantage of it.

Point taken, somehow not sure why I had this mistaken notion that bespoke shoes always come with trees....

fritzl · Apr 21, 2012

sstomcat said:
Point taken, somehow not sure why I had this mistaken notion that bespoke shoes always come with trees....

in any case, we'll check your pictures after a few years of extensive wear... ...and compare it when new?

rikod · Apr 22, 2012

fritzl said:
absolutely. more 3636, imo.
if someone is picky, you can claim that the medaillon is too close to the brogueing. oh well

I also posted this in the Vass thread, this pair is my favorite for the office right now. Very versatile, I wear them with all color trousers except black. The P2 last is very special I think, looks very good & elegant on the feet, like a combination of traditional and modern.

The medallion also look somewhat close to the brogueing and ends a little high on the toe.

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fritzl · Apr 22, 2012

sstomcat said:
fritzl said:

not necessarily in hungary. it's always an option with all makers around the world(rule of thumb), at least three piece. i agree, that most people take advantage of it.

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Point taken, somehow not sure why I had this mistaken notion that bespoke shoes always come with trees....

i like your way of structured thinking. i cannot do all things shoes like a checklist, though. there are too many variations in the game and i'm far from the point to have them all discovered.

sstomcat · Apr 22, 2012

fritzl said:
Originally Posted by forex

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Pictures?Which pair did you order?

These are fan-tas-tic!

fritzl · Apr 22, 2012

sstomcat said:
These are fan-tas-tic!

much appreciated. they now belong to fellow member itsstillmatt: Hey Gerd, They arrived .... Beautiful shoes, and the fit is spot on.

fritzl · Apr 22, 2012

rikod said:
The P2 last is very special I think, looks very good & elegant on the feet, like a combination of traditional and modern.
The medallion also look somewhat close to the brogueing and ends a little high on the toe.

n

it's been a while i've been to vass, u, f and p2 haven't been on the stage yet.

long story short:

i went to budapest over the weekend with three friends and we had a blast. i should do a write up. fond memories. the vass book was hot and fresh and we were obsessed with the idea of a bespoke pair from vass. two ouf us had a little experience in the field. the person in charge had his day off and one of us ended up with a pair of half brogue oxfords in tan. the rest is history...

sstomcat · Apr 22, 2012

fritzl said:
much appreciated. they now belong to fellow member itsstillmatt: Hey Gerd, They arrived .... Beautiful shoes, and the fit is spot on.

My next shoe is going to be a Norweger for sure!...cheers

rikod · Apr 22, 2012

sstomcat said:
fritzl said:

much appreciated. they now belong to fellow member itsstillmatt: Hey Gerd, They arrived .... Beautiful shoes, and the fit is spot on.

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My next shoe is going to be a Norweger for sure!...cheers

Ok, Me too but it have to be identical to that one, nothing less.

Xenon · Apr 22, 2012

fritzl said:
pic

r, the trees do not sit correctly due the footbed is removed.
they are eighteen years old and have seen extensive wear.

Can you explain this. These are handwelted ( I presume) so that the insole is securely stitched to upper, welt, etc, which means that it cannot be removed (without destroying the shoe)? Is the footbed just the heel liner? but that is very thin

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