I'm having trobule picturing the eyelid thing with Asians. Could somebody post a picture of what they're talking about? I don't understand why that would be such a big deal unless its to open up the eyes. As for influence of WASPs beauty ideal, I would say it has its limits. If you ever go to Asia, the women always carry umbrellas to shield themselves from the sun to make their skin whiter. However, the WASP ideal, is a woman who appears somewhat athletic and has a tan. Was I the only person here who thought, yeah, that asian woman is more attractive than those other girls. Gregory, I read a book that you might find real interesting. Unfortunately, i cannot remember the title or the author. But, basically, it showed the underlying scientific reasons why we find certain features beautiful. For example, they said that eyes are considered more attractive when you can tell if the person is interested in you. That's why in the middle ages, women used bella donna to widen their pupils which is an indicator of attraction. To carry it further, you could argue blue eyes are attractive because they reveal more than brown eyes how attracted you are to other people.