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post #16 of 32
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They were never "out" for the MTM and bespoke crowd. I think that they're making  a small revival.  But. first we must kill the casual cancer. BTW, I was in court last week.  Of the hundreds of men in Bronx Supreme, I was the only one in 3 piece.  The judge complimented me and might have been jealous.  However, most lawyers (with the exception of the bigshots) are a little behind the times and are fair dressers.
Brummel: I like like that, "casual cancer". Do you ever find it to your detriment to be too well dressed in court?
post #17 of 32
I'm 21, and work in a very casual office where suits are obsolete. I occassionally wear a suit when me and the guys hit the town, and we are always the only suited men at the clubs we go to, excluding the owners (who hang with us all night anyway). I own 1 3 pc. suit and have not worn it yet, but I would like to pick up another or two. I got turned on to them after seeing Legends of the Fall. The suits Anthony Hopkins wore in that movie were gorgeous. What do you call it when the vest has its own lapels? Regardless of what the current trend is you should always wear what you like, don't follow trends, start them. Eric
post #18 of 32
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What do you call it when the vest has its own lapels?
A vest with lapels. There is no specific term.
post #19 of 32
I own one 3 piece that's made of a heavier flannel, so it's great for winter days. It's a dark gray with subtle glen plaid pattern, so it does look relatively formal. Last time I wore it, I was accused of "looking like a lawyer." Not that I have anything against lawyers...in fact, one of my best friends is a lawyer.
post #20 of 32
I like the idea of making a suit a bit more versatile depending on the function/event. On my next bespoke order the thought of adding a matching vest intrigues me however would the fit of the jacket be severly compromised if I were to go sans vest on occasion?
post #21 of 32
Here is a related question - is there anything potentially damning about wearing a vest / waistcoat with a suit that was not originally a three-piece?
post #22 of 32
Unless the vest is made from the exact same cloth, it will likely look weird. There used to be a tradition for daytime semi-formal wear to wear an odd vest in buff or pearl gray with a dark suit. These days, it would look pretty odd in a business setting. A tattersal or brown suede vest might look good with a tweed suit. Other than that, I think it's probably a bad idea.
post #23 of 32
I have one three-piece suit, and it fits about the same with or without vest. The vest sort of compresses a shirt, so it's not really like an extra layer. This suit is somewhat thin material, though. If the suit were sized for a lapelled vest of heavy fabric, it might be a bit loose without the vest. I don't think it would be noticeably loose, though.
post #24 of 32
What about with a black suit? I can't imagine that it's that hard to match (if that's what it comes down to - an issue of matching). BTW thanks for your quick and always helpful response Manton.
post #25 of 32
Unless it's exactly the same cloth, the fabric will look different between the vest and jacket, even if it appears the same color. If you were doing this for (e.g.) a black-tie optional event, with maybe a black suit and black brocade vest, it might be okay. But trying to match different fabrics exactly never looks right.
post #26 of 32
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Unless it's exactly the same cloth, the fabric will look different between the vest and jacket, even if it appears the same color. If you were doing this for (e.g.) a black-tie optional event, with maybe a black suit and black brocade vest, it might be okay. But trying to match different fabrics exactly never looks right.
Yea, I was thinking of two different fabrics.. Perhaps I should have said "coordinating" instead of "matching."
post #27 of 32
Odd vests are (oddly enough) traditionally reserved for formal wear or casual wear.  And, oddly enough, an odd vest is considered more formal in the formal wear universe.  For instance, a full morning suit in which coat, vest and trousers are all made from the same cloth is traditionally considered slightly less formal than than a black (or oxford grey) coat, pearl grey vest, and striped trousers. Wearing an odd vest (especially in a light color) with a black suit will have a distinctly "formal day wear" look, like you are going to a christening in 1935.
post #28 of 32
A side note to Horace: I think that it's all a matter of personal style as to how one dresses in court. You have to feel comfortable in your own clothes. Gerry Spence would not be Gerry Spence without his turtleneck and buckskin coat. Johnny Cochran wouldn't be Johnny with his slightly sharp appearance. When I started one of my mentors said that I should not wear a white hankerchief in my pocket because the jurors would associate me with Adolphe Menjou. (I bet 10 out of 10 jurors today never heard of him.) In any event, I wore the hankerchief because "that was me." I am known as being a good dresser, and "that is me." I would be phony if I wore an ill-fitting RTW suit to look humble before a jury. A well dressed lawyer means that it's an important case, an important client, and a successful lawyer.
post #29 of 32
On the odd vest question: 1. If you're wearing a "sport" vest with a suit, it makes the outfit more casual. E.g., a flannel tattersal vest with a grey flannel suit. The same goes for wearing a sweater vest under a suit. 2. The sport vest should be of similar character with the suit. E.g., you do not match a tattersal vest with brass buttons with a very dressy pin stripe. You don't match a sweater vest with a morning coat. You don't match an evening vest with a country suit in donegal tweed. You match a "like" with a "like." I imagine that you get the drift. 3. If you're pairing a navy vest from one suit with another navy suit it's going to look odd. It will look like you don't know what you are doing. It will look like you shop at a thrift shop and pick-out whatever is available. 4. Generally, you cannot pair a vest from a suit to another suit. Again, it will look like you were dressed by the Salvation Army.
post #30 of 32
3 piece suits are ALWAYS in style. they are in style b/c: 1. if the vest ever went out of style (never), the vest can be left in the closet 2. they always look sharp, no matter on a short guy, tall guy, fat guy or slim guy
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