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post #46 of 52
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I think that while there are no guarantees, in the end, a little common sense can probably go a long way in avoiding problems: I likely wouldn't trust a tailor with my $4,000 investment unless he* was recommended by someone I trusted, and unless I came away from our initial conversation with a good feeling about his work process and general manner.

*Are there any women menswear tailors out there? There must be, right...?

Serena Kelsey who is tailor for the modfather Paul Weller, as well as Noel Gallagher.
article about her:
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post #47 of 52
I think the problem lies in that prices for bespoke garments are way too high.

Here in Switzerland, you can have still a bespoke suit made but there are very few tailors and they would charge areound $4000 for a suit.

Let's correlate that with the working class salaries.

If you consider that an standard clerk here earns around $4000 per month and a professional or middle manager would be around $7000 per month, this is a comparately high price to pay... even in this country when salaries are higher than in the European Union.

Let's compare this to the situation I have seen in Peru. I had bespoke suits made when I was travelling there, priced around $100-$150 depending on your choice of fabrics.

If you consider that a clerk there would earn around $300 per month and a middle manager or profesional around $1000, then the ratio is much more acceptable for a failure.

A friend of mine that works in a bank in Peru, receives every year a tailor-made suit as a uniform. So the bank contracts a group of tailors to build suits for all employees, regardless of their rank. so everybody has a tailor-made suit.

Even if $100 is considerable for a profesional that earns $1000, it is something you can take a risk about, and this also makes that more people get their suits done by tailors and consequently there are many more tailors for taking the work.

Sure, the quality level is not the one you expect in Britain or NYC. But certainly the suits made there are not 40 times worse.

If we correlate this to Switzerland, average working class salaries, a tailor-made suit could cost $700 which is a fair price and certainly many people would go for it over RTW, and this could revitalize that activity.
post #48 of 52
Interesting issues, and likely dependent on the how much the product deviated from what was promised.

Here's a famous case (and a beautifully written opinion, even if you don't agree with it - and I don't), that every lawyer and law student knows as the "Reading Pipe Case", and which brings up the issue of demanding customers with very exacting specifications . . . like most of us . . .

http://www.courts.state.ny.us/report...jacob_kent.htm
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Interesting issues, and likely dependent on the how much the product deviated from what was promised.

Here's a famous case (and a beautifully written opinion, even if you don't agree with it - and I don't), that every lawyer and law student knows as the "Reading Pipe Case", and which brings up the issue of demanding customers with very exacting specifications . . . like most of us . . .

http://www.courts.state.ny.us/report...jacob_kent.htm

Interesting link. Personally, I think that the contractor was at fault, and to parallel this with an equivalent in haberdashery, if a customer orders a black 120's cloth from Holland & Sherry, to which the tailor agrees and acknowledges, only to have a suit made with a black 120's from Lesser instead, obviously the tailor is at fault, and if the customer demands that the suit be remade, then it must be remade, regardless as to what the cost to the tailor may be.

Jon.
post #50 of 52
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Let's correlate that with the working class salaries.

If you consider that an standard clerk here earns around $4000 per month and a professional or middle manager would be around $7000 per month, this is a comparately high price to pay... even in this country when salaries are higher than in the European Union.
done by tailors and consequently there are many more tailors for taking the work.

I never knew that salaries are so high in Swiss. So regular clerks in Siwtzerland make 90-100 grand a year?
post #51 of 52
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I never knew that salaries are so high in Swiss. So regular clerks in Siwtzerland make 90-100 grand a year?

12 x $4000 = 48,000

Salaries in Switzerland are higher than the EU and the US... Costs of labor and goods are also higher...
post #52 of 52
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12 x $4000 = 48,000

Salaries in Switzerland are higher than the EU and the US... Costs of labor and goods are also higher...

You must be using Swiss math...

Jon.
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