I guess the price has changed. I checked the website and elephant 2 is priced $132 there.
damn, I just realized the rise on SG 30 Elephant 2 is 9.25". that's pretty low isn't it?? I wore 28 petit standard once (9.5" rise) and felt that's the lowest I could go. you know, I'm a low hanger
just found a seller that sells momotaro cheaply. only 2 models though, 0700SP n 0100SP. do you think they're better than N&F?
there are 20% off codes for karm@loop all over. I once figured out a way to get 20% off and free shipping, but I can't figure it out anymore. Anyway, once the indigo/indigo price dropped I ended up with a pair for about $125 using the codes.
If you're worried about the rise I would probably size down a bunch in the NS or try something else. I haven't ever had skinny guys though, just weird guy.