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Are the WG organics still for sale anywhere?  tobi.com still has them but not in a 34. . . thanks!

post #5072 of 13228
picked up the N&FxBig John's for cheap at barney's
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This is incorrect as a blanket statement. There may exist unsand'd denim which does not shrink, but my personal experience with two specific unsand'd fabrics by N&F is that they do shrink and significantly so. Deep Indigos and Broken Twill most definitely shrink. They will shrink in every dimension and will shrink significantly in the waist and the inseam (the longest dimensions shrink the most).

Totally fucked up that statement. I meant sanforized. OOPS!

I thought N&F made all their denim sanforized?

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and the inseam far too long

Can everyone get with the program in here and realize raw denim will require a hem for almost everyone unless they are stacking? This is not a way to gauge fit or whether you want to keep or not. HEM THEM!

I understand your other sizing concerns, though.

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picked up the N&FxBig John's for cheap at barney's


what size/fit?  do they still have any of these?

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Totally fucked up that statement. I meant sanforized. OOPS!

I thought N&F made all their denim sanforized?

I edited out my 'un's.

N&F is all currently sanforized. Sanforized denim does shrink.
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Can everyone get with the program in here and realize raw denim will require a hem for almost everyone unless they are stacking? This is not a way to gauge fit or whether you want to keep or not. HEM THEM!

I understand your other sizing concerns, though.

Seriously, find me high quality raw denim where the inseam isn't "too long." Also, I still maintain that truly skinny fits look much better with at least a small amount of stacking.
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Seriously, find me high quality raw denim where the inseam isn't "too long." Also, I still maintain that truly skinny fits look much better with at least a small amount of stacking.

I agree.

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I edited out my 'un's.

N&F is all currently sanforized. Sanforized denim does shrink.

Minimally. The sanforizing process is designed to prevent shrinkage...so "soaking" or anything of the sort on N&F is pretty silly IMO. Unless you've been wearing the jeans fro several months. I guess it can be a last ditch resort to getting them smaller, but the sanforized denim is designed to be worn off the rack. And hemmed if need be.

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post #5081 of 13228
can't wait for the elephant 2s to drop at blue owl
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Minimally. The sanforizing process is designed to prevent shrinkage...so "soaking" or anything of the sort on N&F is pretty silly IMO. Unless you've been wearing the jeans fro several months. I guess it can be a last ditch resort to getting them smaller, but the sanforized denim is designed to be worn off the rack. And hemmed if need be.

Soaking sanforized denim that will not be washed for months is not silly. I soak right after a purchase. I have experience with skinny guys in nep, and weird guys in deep indigo and Big John collab. They all shrunk with a hot soak. The soak caused the greatest shrinkage in the Big John's even though they state on the jeans to "Buy your exact size. Will not shrink." In the hem, they shrunk more than 1/4", which made the hem exactly 19cm. Perfecttttttttt. Another reason to do an initial soak is that it makes the denim more rigid, which makes it much more enjoyable to break in IMO.
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Soaking sanforized denim that will not be washed for months is not silly. I soak right after a purchase. I have experience with skinny guys in nep, and weird guys in deep indigo and Big John collab. They all shrunk with a hot soak. The soak caused the greatest shrinkage in the Big John's even though they state on the jeans to "Buy your exact size. Will not shrink." In the hem, they shrunk more than 1/4", which made the hem exactly 19cm. Perfecttttttttt. Another reason to do an initial soak is that it makes the denim more rigid, which makes it much more enjoyable to break in IMO.

lol what? soaking makes the denim less rigid as it removes some of the starch.
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It would be more accurate to say the sanforization process is designed to remove a portion of the total amount of shrink a fabric has. I haven't met a N&F denim that won't shrink an inch in the waist and two inches in the inseam.
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lol what? soaking makes the denim less rigid as it removes some of the starch.

Yes, it does remove the starch; however, the fabric is more rigid after an air dry than it is pre-soak. IMO, another benefit of soaking, for example, is to set the stacks and honeycombs while the denim is still wet or at least damp. Because the denim is more rigid, your stacks won't move or need any fixing once dry; they'll be very stable unlike they are pre-soak. If you disagree, try it.
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