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post #11866 of 13357

fuck hideous leg twist so fuck unsanforized =\

 

youre gonna soak unsanforized anyways so might as well get them sanforized so you dont have ugly leg twists.  i do understand that sanforizing and soaking isnt 100% the same and it might change the fabric differently hence what hes saying

post #11867 of 13357

Yeah I get that. I'd just like to hear more about the specific changes sanforization makes to the fabric in terms of how it fades. Need to get into the chemistry of that shit, yo. 

post #11868 of 13357

It's an interesting point.  Sanforized/treatment vs Unsanforized/untreated.  I think at the end of the day you just have two different fading patterns or styles and over time fading will tend to happen in the same ways for both.  It's not like the stress points change based on sanforization.  

 

I'm interested in what was said in part II.

post #11869 of 13357

Should I Really Wait Six Months To Wash My Jeans?

 

...With denim treated like this – yes, you’ll normally need infrequent washings to get a very high-contrast fade at the end.

 

But what most people don’t talk about is how if you buy a pair of jeans made from unsanforized denim, you’ll get these kinds of fades even if you washed your jeans every two weeks.

 

I guess people don't talk about it because it is not possible.

Also,

I would like to know what type of denim he is talking about.

post #11870 of 13357
My experience with unsanforized denim was simply difficult. Maybe I am overly critical of how a pair fits me, but any waywt / fitpic thread will do that. I have never managed to get the full shrink stated on the SE site out of a single hot soak, no matter how hot or now long, and I have failed to get the full shrink after two hot soaks on an unsan'd product. The unsan'd product must be somehow bought with the suggestion that the waist will shrink a full three inches, which puts it as unwearable out of the box. Not to mention that shrinkage rates are not adjusted for the tagged size, either, which logically they must be, or that is to say that a product has a percentile of shrink, not a flat figure.
post #11871 of 13357
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Originally Posted by Distorbiant View Post

Yeah I get that. I'd just like to hear more about the specific changes sanforization makes to the fabric in terms of how it fades. Need to get into the chemistry of that shit, yo. 

Sanforization is nothing more than pressing denim trough heated rollers, which press the fabric flat and shrinking them. This makes for "less interesting" fabric, often achieving a flatter hand to the denim, as opposed to the texture that "real" raw denim has.

I can understand that texture is preferred since it will have influence on the wear. Looks more vivid, lifelike. Sanforized fabrics lack "life".
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My experience with unsanforized denim was simply difficult. Maybe I am overly critical of how a pair fits me, but any waywt / fitpic thread will do that. I have never managed to get the full shrink stated on the SE site out of a single hot soak, no matter how hot or now long, and I have failed to get the full shrink after two hot soaks on an unsan'd product. The unsan'd product must be somehow bought with the suggestion that the waist will shrink a full three inches, which puts it as unwearable out of the box. Not to mention that shrinkage rates are not adjusted for the tagged size, either, which logically they must be, or that is to say that a product has a percentile of shrink, not a flat figure.
I agree. I've only bought 2 pair of unsanforized denim; NF x kamikaze attack and levis shrink to fit. The first being the levis which I soaked twice and they where still huge. So I just don't even deal with that shit. Just to iffy. With a 50$ pair who cares, but if I spend 200+ on jawnz and the don't fit we'll after shrink thats just to big of a waist. Didn't attempt to soak or shrink the NF x kamikaze attack. Just bought ma size and rocked out.
post #11873 of 13357
And part II for those who care:
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Should You Take a Bath in Your Jeans and Other Common Denim Questions

Denim Lore with Kiya Babzani, Part II

Yesterday, we talked with Kiya Babzani - co-owner and founder of Self Edge - about whether or not people should really wait six months before washing their jeans. Today, we’ll explore three other common beliefs in the denim community, including the one about taking a bath in your jeans when you first bring them home.

Derek Guy: It’s commonly advised that jeans should always fit extremely tight when you first buy them – to the point where you can barely button them up. Is that true?

Kiya Babzani: Definitely not. There are two deciding factors when buying jeans: does it look good and does it feel good? If you’re stuffing yourself into a pair of jeans two sizes too small because that’s what the blogs and message boards tell you, you’re doing it wrong.

DG: Isn’t the idea that some jeans will heavily stretch over time?

KB: If you’re a 32 and you buy a pair of jeans in a size 30 to account for stretching, you’re going to look like a stuffed sausage and have red slashes at your hips for weeks. That’s neither comfortable nor attractive. Also, most decent jeans don’t stretch that much with wear. The maximum is about 1.5” or so unless you get them extremely tight when new.

DG: How about the idea that you should first wear your jeans in the bathtub while letting them soak?

KB: People like to overcomplicate the wearing of jeans. The idea that you should wear your jeans in a bathtub is a terrible idea. It’s not only uncomfortable, but it stretches out the jeans in unnatural ways. It creates knee-bagging and pulls at the hips, giving you hip-flare.

It’s true, however, that you should always soak unsanforized denim before wearing (you don’t need to for sanforized denim). If you’re buying them from a store, you should find the fit you like then buy one size up and do a 30-minute hot water soak once you bring them home. If you’re buying online, just buy one size/measurement up from your true size.

You need to soak unsanforized denim so that the shrinkage is gone before you start the fading process. The jeans will also last far longer if soaked before wearing. You don’t need to do it while wearing them in the tub, however. Again, this will just create unnatural stretching in areas such as the knees and hips. Just throw them in a tub, sink, or bucket, and let them soak.

DG: OK, let’s do one last bit of denim lore. I’ve read that raw denim will mold to your body. Is this actually true?

KB: Yes, all raw denim will mold to your body, but sanforized denim only slightly molds, while unsanforized denim will take on the shape of your figure. If you take two pairs of jeans in the same fit and size, one sanforized and one unsanforized, soak them both in water for five minutes, put them on, and let them dry (not something I recommend doing, by the way, for the reasons mentioned above). This will quicken the process of “molding.” Afterwards, you can take the jeans off and lay them down. You’ll then notice that the sanforized pair will be nearly like they were before, while the unsanforized pair will look like you’re still wearing them.

DG: Thanks for taking the time to speak with us, Kiya

KB: Thank you.
post #11874 of 13357

how do you eliminate leg twist on a pair of unsanforized? 

post #11875 of 13357
Where can I pick up N&F jeans for my girlfriend in downtown Toronto?
post #11876 of 13357
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Originally Posted by TooAwesome View Post

how do you eliminate leg twist on a pair of unsanforized? 

 

Aw c'mon... its not that bad.
 

post #11877 of 13357
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Originally Posted by TooAwesome View Post

how do you eliminate leg twist on a pair of unsanforized? 

Ehm... Not. Unless you go for broken twill.
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post #11879 of 13357

Dutil Denim on Queen West.

 

 

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Where can I pick up N&F jeans for my girlfriend in downtown Toronto?
post #11880 of 13357
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Originally Posted by Ponyboy312 View Post

 

Aw c'mon... its not that bad.
 

 

most certainly is.... lol its like purposely walking with a limp thinking you have swagger but you really look like sloppy

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Ehm... Not. Unless you go for broken twill.

 

what if you were to soak the denim before sewing them? still unsanforized untreated goodness but sewn with the twist so you dont notice it

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