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Originally Posted by El Argentino View Post


Alright noob. Let me know how that all works out for you.

Sometimes its not even worth arguing with those who fail to grasp basic logic and attempt to attack the fringes of an argument, but just to clarify:

Jeans straight out of the factory are loaded with solvents, starches, etc. which make the denim rigid (fascinating, no?). These chemicals are by nature corrosive to fabric in general. There's a reason starch has a mixed reputation, or that even dry cleaning is questioned in caring for fine garments; they're reapplying these similar chemicals in even greater amounts to compensate for the "muck" your body leaves on your clothes.

But that's leaving the main point. YOU DIRTY YOUR CLOTHES. To not clean them subsequent to wearing them (let alone upon purchase as addressed above^) is foolhardy and will limit the life of your garment (ie, jeans, shirts, anything in case you couldn't put that together).

Heaven forbid we think outside of fashion groupthink and grasp a bit of reality in our sartorial lives.

 

I never said not to wash jeans. You have poor reading comprehension. 

 

Also, show me hard evidence that the starch in jeans is corrosive to them. The guys behind Self Edge and 3Sixteen say soaking sanforized denim is unnecessary. 

 

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There was a thread recently where a poster complained that his crotch blew out in less than a year and was wondering if raw designer jeans aren't that durable. Tate + yoko said it happened because they weren't washed in over 6 months of heavy use. Also, in the video link posted earlier they said very clearly that if you want your jeans to last to wash them every couple of months.

 

OK, here's my take...

 

There are two things that will cause the denim to wear out faster:

 

1. dirt... it's abrasive and when it gets into fabric it will act as an abrasive on the fabric, wearing it out faster. Washing your jeans when dirty will remove the dirt and keep it from wearing out your jeans. Simple. So wash your shit when it's dirty, common sense.

 

2. starch... in and of itsself I don't believe starch chemically degrades the fabic, and even if it does I do not believe it is the main cause of why starch wears out denim faster. Starch wears out jeans faster because it concentrates the flexing of the fabric into a much smaller area of the fabric... i.e. creases. Creases make for a cool looking fade, but without starch the movement of the fabric would be spread out onto a much larger area, the fabric will drape and not crease as much, and even if it does, one crease is less likely to permanently form. The bottom line is, the fabric in the crease flexes a lot, which causes it to break eventually... like when you take a paper clip and bend it back in forth in the same place, after you do it 50 times it breaks. If you spread the load over the entire paper clip, causing it to flex along it's entire length, it won't break.

 

My take away from #2 is to wash your raw, starched, sanforized jeans after the wear patterns have started but before the denim wears too much. If you wait too long the denim might crack or the crotch might blow out, too soon and the fadez might not be as sick. I think the advise in the vid is pretty good, wash every couple months [or if you get them dirty].

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An easy fix would be to just soak/wash the crotch alone early to soften up the denim in that area. I haven't done this yet myself but I can't really see any drawbacks to it. 

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If people decide not to pre soak or even not wash. Let them ruin there jeans. Even if they are cheap N&Fs. Its their or their parents money. Then months later they will come back on this site and ask noob questions like how do you all get your honeycombs so nice? Ill save you the trouble, we spray starch, and then we piss on them.
post #11660 of 13309
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Originally Posted by Dorje View Post


My take away from #2 is to wash your raw, starched, sanforized jeans after the wear patterns have started but before the denim wears too much. If you wait too long the denim might crack or the crotch might blow out, too soon and the fadez might not be as sick. I think the advise in the vid is pretty good, wash every couple months [or if you get them dirty].

This describes very well my admittedly noob understanding and what I have been doing with my slim guys.
post #11661 of 13309
Wow!!! Alla this bullshit over soak or not to soak. Let people where there jawnz whichever way they please. Ain't that the cool thing about raw denim? U kinda do ur own thing.
I never pre-soak, un-sanforized or not and if they shrink to be unwearable then on to the next pair. To each is own.
post #11662 of 13309

This is not a Leg.

Naked and Famous Big Slub.

1 Soak before I even eat.

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N&F on Gilt for 80 bux right now.

Wish they would at least label what they're selling though, or post tag pics at least. It just says "N&F Weird Guy..."

I'm stocked. Kind of want a sport shirt though.
post #11664 of 13309
Thers some discussion on another thread about how the jeans aren't selvedged and are specifically made for gilt. someone posted a pic of organic indigo slim guys and they had a zipper fly..i thought only jeans with stretch came with a zipper?
post #11665 of 13309
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Originally Posted by lckychrmsbboy View Post

Thers some discussion on another thread about how the jeans aren't selvedged and are specifically made for gilt. someone posted a pic of organic indigo slim guys and they had a zipper fly..i thought only jeans with stretch came with a zipper?

I noticed one non-selvedge pair. Wonder if they're raw. The only non-selvedge N&F I know of is the 5oz painters.

It's really shady if they're making jeans specifically for this and marking them as discounted.
post #11666 of 13309
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Originally Posted by einstine View Post

Hi again.
You really do need to presoak especially if they are unsanforized. Your fades will shift to another area of the jeans, thats just common sense. Self edge does not post how much they will shrink because it looks cool. "Yes I know SF does not sell N&F"


Most N&F fabrics are sanforized. Shrinkage is minimal, soaking is not necessary.
post #11667 of 13309
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Originally Posted by Artem View Post


I noticed one non-selvedge pair. Wonder if they're raw. The only non-selvedge N&F I know of is the 5oz painters.

 

 

Linen blend, blanket lined, Frankenstein, Painter and several other offerings are non-selvedge as a way to cut down on the cost of the denim.  The non-selvedge offerings fit TTS as opposed to the selvedge raws.  I had to size up 2 to get my thighs in the blanket lined and linen.

post #11668 of 13309
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Originally Posted by Ecco View Post

Linen blend, blanket lined, Frankenstein, Painter and several other offerings are non-selvedge as a way to cut down on the cost of the denim.  The non-selvedge offerings fit TTS as opposed to the selvedge raws.  I had to size up 2 to get my thighs in the blanket lined and linen.
Can you comment on the linen denim? Considering getting it because I love linen and denim... so linen denim... yeah
post #11669 of 13309
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Originally Posted by Artem View Post


Can you comment on the linen denim? Considering getting it because I love linen and denim... so linen denim... yeah

They fit tight in the thighs and waist as a non-selvedge offering so go TTS or one up depending on your thighs.  I had to get rid of them because they were like sausage casings.  The denim itself is nice, light, and has a nice breezy quality to it without feeling flimsy.  I also really dug the lighter color, it just worked well with my wardrobe.  

 

Go for it if you can find it and if not, check out the Painter.  Completely different color but still awesome.  I'm only rocking the Deep Indigo, Blanket Lined, and Paulrose Heritage these days. 

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Regarding the Gilt sale, I wonder if these aren't mostly returns from the sale about a week ago. The Weird Guys I received were not selvedge, but the decision to return them was made easy because they didn't fit.

 

In any case, they were non-selvedge and the leather patch on the back was darker than usual. They had a style number that seemed in line with other N&F models, but when I tried to Google search it I received no results. The tag was rather generic and did not describe the material.

 

The slim guys I ordered in June of last year were the twill selvedge.

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