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post #11611 of 13354
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Originally Posted by einstine View Post

Are you ill? 

 

He is trying a new cut in the first place, thats why he is asking these questions lol.

Most N&F jeans are unsanforized. So a soak is a must unless you want your honeycombs on your thighs when you decide to soak for the first time. 

Even sanforized jeans like A.P.C. should get a soak before wear, if you want your fades to be exactly were they were, before you soaked them. 

Never said brands like Flat Head, and Iron Heart will solve fitting problem. I stated that if he wants a exact fit by going to a tailor, buy a pair of FH or IH. 

One other thing? What the hell are you taking about loose all the details from going to a tailor? He wont be getting his jeans "not jawnz" bejewled. So I am pretty sure if a tailor resizes the thighs, and tampers the lower legs. They wont disappear lol.

 

Rightyow77,Please go back to the SuFu forums. Thanks.

 

My man you make no sense and you have obviously been misinformed or are simply to lazy and cognitively challenged to digest the advice posted on these forums. You made the claim that "most N&F jeans are unsanforized", that could not be further from the truth. Naked and Famous base models are almost always saforized, i.e. preshrunk ready to wear. The exceptions are their collabos like the OnixNF collabo, MomoxTate+YokoxNF, FHxNF and their 32oz denim in the weird guy cut. You implied that he need to buy brands like FH and IH to tailor his jeans which I responded to by saying that it wouldn't solve  anything if he did not size correctly. you still implied that it would remedy some of his preexisting problems which is an incorrect assertion on your part and an extremely harmful one, but I trust that people would be more discerning with their money. " If you want a perfect fitting pair buy true to size tag size, and go to a very good tailor, and he will chop them up. But if you do that I would consider a diff brand like Flat Head, or Iron Heart, be will to spend $450-550 w/ jeans if you do that"  

Please explain why going with a different brand makes sense, when what he is paying for is all the extra details, denim and aesthetic provided by the mentioned brands. Altering them, as I noted earlier would kinda defeat the purpose and would not solve anything once the jeans hit the wash, since most of the offerings by both these brands save IH, usually offer their cuts in unsaforized fabric. 

 

You also said this which leads me to believe you are a troll or are simply just talking out your ass.

 

"Anyways just measure your thighs and waist thats all. Do no measure your waist at your belly button like many guides tell you. Unless you wear your jeans at your belly button lol, measure wear you wear your jeans." 

 

which contridicts your later statement of

"Do not worry about rise, and get all typical about measurements"

 

 How exactly does that make sense? You just admitted that the jeans will not be sitting at his belly line but rather on his waist, so how exactly does disregarding rise length make sense.

 

You my friend are not to be taken serious, since you have proven you have no idea what you are talking about. Unlike you I don't mean to sound crass, but alas you can not admit when you are wrong and seek to take petty stabs at me. But to answer your original question yes I am ill, but my doctor said my rash should go away in about a day or so. So kind of you to inquire stirpot.gif

post #11612 of 13354

Just email Alex at tate + yoko.. Arguments will never end. 

post #11613 of 13354
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Originally Posted by einstine View Post

Just email Alex at tate + yoko.. Arguments will never end. 

 

How about you just stop posting denim fit advice. No offense. You're just dropping factually incorrect information and riling people up. It's not necessary.

 


Anyways, if anyone wants a pair of N&F Chinos, *that site with all the rep code spammers* has them for $80 right now. 

post #11614 of 13354

Its cool man. Just a little arrognorant since you are wrong.

 

All it takes is a google search to prove the I am right. 

 

Read please.. 

 

Andrew of 3sixteen post 

 

If they fit perfectly right now, you bought the wrong size. Plenty of people decide to skip the soak on unsanforized jeans but it only leads to problems down the line as any fades you get would shift and not align with where your body actually moves. The length is a problem since you'll lose 2-3". Plus, a presoak actually strengthens the denim so you'd likely have a jean that wouldn't last as long. Sometimes I get customers at Self Edge who insist that they don't want to soak, and I tell them that even if you throw the jeans into an ice cold tub of water for 5 minutes, it's better than skipping the soak altogether for the reasons I mentioned. It just depends on if you have enough room to even tolerate a little bit of shrinkage. I would personally sell off a pair of jeans that don't fit right before I would consider just wearing them unsoaked. Think about how you might be loving those jeans in a year and won't have the option to wear them any more because they are dirty, disgusting and falling apart. That would be a shame.

As far as color loss goes, soaking jeans often darkens the denim due to the release and redistribution of indigo.

 

Here is more proof...

Kiya of Self Edge Watch the video and read the top comment. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvymUM8a-NU

 

If you don't believe me now, I honestly don't know what to tell you. This is a N&F thread jeans that people new to raw denim tend to buy, but did not know you had to give beginner advice, or should I just say wrong advice.

post #11615 of 13354
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Originally Posted by einstine View Post

Its cool man. Just a little arrognorant since you are wrong.

 

All it takes is a google search to prove the I am right. 

 

Read please.. 

 

Andrew of 3sixteen post 

 

If they fit perfectly right now, you bought the wrong size. Plenty of people decide to skip the soak on unsanforized jeans but it only leads to problems down the line as any fades you get would shift and not align with where your body actually moves. The length is a problem since you'll lose 2-3". Plus, a presoak actually strengthens the denim so you'd likely have a jean that wouldn't last as long. Sometimes I get customers at Self Edge who insist that they don't want to soak, and I tell them that even if you throw the jeans into an ice cold tub of water for 5 minutes, it's better than skipping the soak altogether for the reasons I mentioned. It just depends on if you have enough room to even tolerate a little bit of shrinkage. I would personally sell off a pair of jeans that don't fit right before I would consider just wearing them unsoaked. Think about how you might be loving those jeans in a year and won't have the option to wear them any more because they are dirty, disgusting and falling apart. That would be a shame.

As far as color loss goes, soaking jeans often darkens the denim due to the release and redistribution of indigo.

 

Here is more proof...

Kiya of Self Edge Watch the video and read the top comment. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvymUM8a-NU

 

If you don't believe me now, I honestly don't know what to tell you. This is a N&F thread jeans that people new to raw denim tend to buy, but did not know you had to give beginner advice, or should I just say wrong advice.

you're an idiot. that applies for unsanforized jeans. most all of n&f jeans are sanforized 

post #11616 of 13354
Apparently my first post didn't go through. Apologies if this is a double. Did someone figure out the gilt issue? I got my weird guys and am not impressed. They are indeed non-selvedge. That is a shame because I bought slim guys from gilt in June and they were the twill selvedge.

I would really like the weird guy cut. I sized to a 33 while my slims are 34 but I think that was a mistake. They seem to tight inthe thighs.

I am going to return them but it says only for gilt credit. For shame.
post #11617 of 13354
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Originally Posted by bik2101 View Post

you're an idiot. that applies for unsanforized jeans. most all of n&f jeans are sanforized 

 

Haha like I did not realize that putting it together.

post #11618 of 13354

Can't tell if einstine is legitimately dumb or just trolling.

 

 


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Originally Posted by The Rural Juror View Post

Apparently my first post didn't go through. Apologies if this is a double. Did someone figure out the gilt issue? I got my weird guys and am not impressed. They are indeed non-selvedge. That is a shame because I bought slim guys from gilt in June and they were the twill selvedge.

I would really like the weird guy cut. I sized to a 33 while my slims are 34 but I think that was a mistake. They seem to tight inthe thighs.

I am going to return them but it says only for gilt credit. For shame.
 

Just call gilt and complain. They'll probably give you a full refund.
post #11619 of 13354
Quote:
Originally Posted by einstine View Post

Its cool man. Just a little arrognorant since you are wrong.

All it takes is a google search to prove the I am right. 

Read please.. 

Andrew of 3sixteen post 

If they fit perfectly right now, you bought the wrong size. Plenty of people decide to skip the soak on unsanforized jeans but it only leads to problems down the line as any fades you get would shift and not align with where your body actually moves. The length is a problem since you'll lose 2-3". Plus, a presoak actually strengthens the denim so you'd likely have a jean that wouldn't last as long. Sometimes I get customers at Self Edge who insist that they don't want to soak, and I tell them that even if you throw the jeans into an ice cold tub of water for 5 minutes, it's better than skipping the soak altogether for the reasons I mentioned. It just depends on if you have enough room to even tolerate a little bit of shrinkage. I would personally sell off a pair of jeans that don't fit right before I would consider just wearing them unsoaked. Think about how you might be loving those jeans in a year and won't have the option to wear them any more because they are dirty, disgusting and falling apart. That would be a shame.




As far as color loss goes, soaking jeans often darkens the denim due to the release and redistribution of indigo.


Here is more proof...
Kiya of Self Edge Watch the video and read the top comment. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvymUM8a-NU

If you don't believe me now, I honestly don't know what to tell you. This is a N&F thread jeans that people new to raw denim tend to buy, but did not know you had to give beginner advice, or should I just say wrong advice.

Just stop. You're giving bad information.
post #11620 of 13354
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Originally Posted by CPaul View Post


Just stop. You're giving bad information.

LOL You realize that the post you quoted is not my information. It is from 2 very well experienced people. So if you think that is bad info, your very unknowledgable about the raw denim world.

post #11621 of 13354
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Originally Posted by einstine View Post

LOL You realize that the post you quoted is not my information. It is from 2 very well experienced people. So if you think that is bad info, your very unknowledgable about the raw denim world.

 

 

yes a very experienced youtube comment.

post #11622 of 13354

Rapidly approaching threak status.

post #11623 of 13354
Just add Einstein to your ignore list and move on. Pretty sure he is trolling... If he's serious just be glad you don't need to see his posts any longer.
post #11624 of 13354
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Originally Posted by Distorbiant View Post

 

 

yes a very experienced youtube comment.

Not just the comment lol watch the video.

post #11625 of 13354
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Originally Posted by einstine View Post

Not just the comment lol watch the video.

 

Last time I'll post about this (on the good faith that you're being honest), but the advice you're trying to give isn't applicable because Naked & Famous jeans are already pre-shrunk. The video actually says that soaking isn't necessary for pre-shrunk jeans. 

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