Originally Posted by Tate Yoko staff
The elephant denim (both 1 + 2) is dark indigo, not black. They ARE "wicked stiff" as you put it, but will soften with wear and wash.
I've worn mine a couple dozen times, and my brother just got his yesterday. Brand new it's almost like cardboard trying to get into them, but they eventually do soften up quite a bit. I'm in Toronto, and I couldn't wear this in the summer at all, and I'll be wearing it in the winter, at least on weekends.
I wouldn't say it keeps me warm - so far it's only been as low as -3 or so though. But it certainly doesn't make me feel as cold as I would be had I been wearing a lighter pents.
Finally, it's definitely dark indigo, and not black, however the photos online may make it seem. It's my first pair of jeans that cost over $60, and I'm really enjoying wearing them.
Edit: Looks like I replied to the wrong person, sorry about that.Edited by althanis - 11/28/12 at 7:22pm