the wierd guy LHT:
32s = 34.5 waist
33s = 35.5 waist
34 = 36.5 waist
ofcourse this is as new with no stretch ... i wear 32s in most everything ... but i know its all vanity sized
i ask because the E2s are 36" waist i know i havent stretched em and they fit just right - read no effort to put on (havent worn enough to break in at all)... i know the pants will give and stretch, i want to avoid needing to start over yet again .. most people size down 1 atleast with N&F and i always didd, but with LHT ive heard they stretch more than normal ..
I will no doubt get 33s if not 32s .. i know the 32s will work in a few hours, but I worry that the slightly smaller legs will be bothersome and too much like some other pants i already have ... 33s may be the default, but I do fear that the waist will not need to stretch..
in my experience, not only do the N&Fs stretch a GOOD amount, but the measurements from the company are slightly smaller than reality as well ..
thanks for the input .. but I know i need 32-33 since my fav fitting jeans right now are 35" waist .. just need to decide (perhaps my measurements arent as tight to the skin as I wear pants, or perhaps im measuring a little too low and this is throwing off the argument?) ... also ive lost a lot of weight so some of the skin is soft and im sure that plays a part ..