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Great, thanks for the advice. Why does apartment stereo suck so much? You just mean need to keep volume moderate?
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Originally Posted by riverrun View Post

Great, thanks for the advice. Why does apartment stereo suck so much? You just mean need to keep volume moderate?

Yes, but the worse part is you can't have deep bass because it moves thru the walls like butter.

The beauty of top quality hi fi is that you hear all rages (hi and low) at very low volumes. In an apartment you're almost better with headphones. With most satellites the cutoff is around 50 or 60 hz while one of my sets of KEF reference 107's drop all the way to 20, outside of the human audible range.

You can play low volume in an apt but you need to spend $$$$ to get that bass response, but then you always have to play it low because anytime you crank it, then it goes right thru the walls.
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Please forgive my 'hipsterness' for a minute here...

I admire all of your systems and would love to one day live in a beautiful home with an incredible sound system, but I probably never will and that's OK with me.

However, I do realistically plan on one day owning a vacation home (camping/hunting/fishing). This will be a very rustic place. I picture a single room with a cast iron wood stove and a lofted bed. One of my goals for this place will be to have a record player and a stack of metal records. There's nothing that pleases me more than to listen to some metal whilst sitting by a wood stove sipping a hot toddy, faithful pooch at my feet. I've dedicated myself to this plan and have slowly but surely started building my record collection based around this ideal.

With that said, I would like to start the search for the perfect system for this scenario. I am totally clueless and have absolutely no idea where to start. Should I start looking at vintage systems? Is there a good go-to pleb system that is recommended to cheapskate noobs?

As far as price range is concerned, is sub $1000 reasonable? Keep in mind, this stuff will potentially be left in a home without anyone in it for months at a time. I'd hate to show up one day with a great bottle of whiskey and a good book only to find that my expensive stereo has been stolen.

I'd appreciate any ideas or insight. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by ClambakeSkate View Post

With that said, I would like to start the search for the perfect system for this scenario. I am totally clueless and have absolutely no idea where to start. Should I start looking at vintage systems? Is there a good go-to pleb system that is recommended to cheapskate noobs?

As far as price range is concerned, is sub $1000 reasonable? Keep in mind, this stuff will potentially be left in a home without anyone in it for months at a time. I'd hate to show up one day with a great bottle of whiskey and a good book only to find that my expensive stereo has been stolen.

I'd appreciate any ideas or insight. Thanks.

Vintage doesn't necessarily suit your needs. See the post below and my response. It's basically the same thing for you, with a slightly lower budget.

Metal, I assume you listen pretty loud? I don't see 'Angel of Death' sounding good at volume level 1 so you need a little horsepower.


This NAD is cheap and reliable, sounds good for the $:

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/solid-state-nad-317-2013-02-08-amplifiers-78727-austin-tx


These Klipsch are pretty good for the $, reliable:

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-klipsch-forte-vintage-horn-loaded-speakers-2013-01-28-speakers-92591-temecula-ca


Turntable, get a Rega:

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/turntables-rega-p3-turntable-with-grado-silver-cartridge-2013-02-01-analog-22101


There you go, solid system for $1300 well aligned with your style of music.


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Longtime music freak, not trying to get into audio as a hobby, just want to finally get a solid system that will sound great, plus add ability to play vinyl. Live in an ny apartment so lower volume use. Considering just getting a peachtree inova, their d4 speakers, and some type of turntable (would love a recommendation). But part of me wants something all tube for warmth and nostalgia, particularly bc I don't need anything very loud in my apartment and so I am curious about SETs and what not, although I get the impression venturing into those might be a very poor idea given my goal (get something great that works in place and don't think about it thereafter). Any advice? Turntable recs?

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Apartment stereo sucks. You just can't use it. Forget deep bass.

You're probably ok with a set of satellites, a decent amp setup like a Linn and a Rega turntable.

Tons of sub $1000 integrated amps out there. I'm not into satellites so I'll defer to someone else.


If you want tubes (dunno what your budget it), this is a superb sounding amp:

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/tube-unison-research-s6-tube-integrated-amp-demo-class-a-triode-mode-tonally-rich-yet-c-2013-01-07-integrateds-91207-glendale-ca


Good value here:

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/turntables-rega-p3-turntable-with-grado-silver-cartridge-2013-02-01-analog-22101


And this integrated amp is a monster:

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/solid-state-jeff-rowland-concentra-integrated-excellent-2013-01-28-integrateds-22724
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Vintage doesn't necessarily suit your needs. See the post below and my response. It's basically the same thing for you, with a slightly lower budget.

Metal, I assume you listen pretty loud? I don't see 'Angel of Death' sounding good at volume level 1 so you need a little horsepower.


This NAD is cheap and reliable, sounds good for the $:

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/solid-state-nad-317-2013-02-08-amplifiers-78727-austin-tx


These Klipsch are pretty good for the $, reliable:

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-klipsch-forte-vintage-horn-loaded-speakers-2013-01-28-speakers-92591-temecula-ca


Turntable, get a Rega:

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/turntables-rega-p3-turntable-with-grado-silver-cartridge-2013-02-01-analog-22101


There you go, solid system for $1300 well aligned with your style of music.

That's excellent, thanks! Time to start the search.
post #2211 of 2372

This thread kills me.

>Amps having sound signatures.

>Buying vinyl and turntables, ever.

 

For an apartment, I'd recommend full-range options like Frugel-Horns or even OB; though, largely depends on the type of music being listened to.

 

 

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The beauty of top quality hi fi is that you hear all rages (hi and low) at very low volumes. In an apartment you're almost better with headphones.
 
QFT.
post #2212 of 2372
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How many channels?

Either 5.1 or 7.1
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Originally Posted by ljrcustom View Post

Either 5.1 or 7.1

Sorry, I should have asked, what your budget?
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Originally Posted by MarioImpemba View Post

This thread kills me.

Buying vinyl and turntables, ever.

What's wrong with this, exactly?
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What's wrong with this, exactly?

 

Sorry, bad troll blanket statement. I personally don't understand the logic behind supporting an inferior format, especially for the cost. But, some people enjoy the novelty, operating procedure, already have records, and so on. If quality sound reproduction is your goal, digital has the advantage.

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Originally Posted by MarioImpemba View Post

Sorry, bad troll blanket statement. I personally don't understand the logic behind supporting an inferior format, especially for the cost. But, some people enjoy the novelty, operating procedure, already have records, and so on. If quality sound reproduction is your goal, digital has the advantage.

Highly questionable post. I think you might do a bit of research.

Vinyl has a couple of faults but its clearly a better sounding medium than digital. The unfortunate thing about a record is that it degrades every time you play it.

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question487.htm
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Vinyl has a couple of faults but its clearly a better sounding medium than digital. 

 

I have heard very high end examples of both, and strongly disagree with this statement. Part of the challenge in defining the difference is A) accounting for the entire playback chain, B) accounting for synergy between components. Acknowledging those limitations, I think good digital sounds better than good vinyl...BUT, everyone hears differently so it is ultimately a matter of subjective taste. While this may be true for you, sweeping generalizations of this sort aren't justified.

 

But even more to the point - can we at least acknowledge that different people have different tastes, and avoid repeating the endless vinyl vs digital wars that bog down so many discussions of audio?

 

Re Apartment audio - I honestly don't know what you guys are talking about WRT full range being impossible. I've got Vandy 5As that push down to 20 Hz in an apartment and haven't had a single complaint playing a mix of jazz, classical, opera, blues, rock, and electronica.

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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

Highly questionable post. I think you might do a bit of research.

Vinyl has a couple of faults but its clearly a better sounding medium than digital. The unfortunate thing about a record is that it degrades every time you play it.

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question487.htm

 

Holy shit, that is one misinformed article. I suggest you might do a bit of better research. That piece doesn't even cite an author, probably out of embarrassment, and is just some random persons misguided notions.

 

Nyquist demonstrates that interpolating a sinusoidal wave through Redbook bit-depth reproduces an analog signal perfectly. You can't argue math.

 

Analog also has higher distortion, way worse snr, and consequently worse dynamic range.

 

Also, the aforementioned degradation of physical copy as you mention, along with a drastic difference in physical footprint to assemble a catalog of vinyl albums vs. a hard drive.

 

Some people enjoy the harmonic distortion that is added by things like tube amps/preamps, and vinyl pressings. This is subjective, however, and you can easily add the same effects digitally should you choose.

 

Objectively, digital can more faithfully reproduce recordings better than vinyl without introducing artifacts like higher THD.

 

Modern dithering and jitter management effectively abolish any perceivable drawbacks to digital.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Longmorn View Post

But even more to the point - can we at least acknowledge that different people have different tastes, and avoid repeating the endless vinyl vs digital wars that bog down so many discussions of audio?

 

It's hard for me to let it go when someone is calling the sky Green when it is in fact Blue. This isn't a subjective matter. Digital is objectively better in all aspects.

post #2219 of 2372
Shit what have I started.

I only asked coz I have a bunch of vinyl but no record player, was wondering what kind of reasoning you would've given for that statement.
post #2220 of 2372
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Originally Posted by MarioImpemba View Post

Sorry, bad troll blanket statement. I personally don't understand the logic behind supporting an inferior format, especially for the cost. But, some people enjoy the novelty, operating procedure, already have records, and so on. If quality sound reproduction is your goal, digital has the advantage.

This is it for me and my purposes.

I listen to digital format almost ALWAYS, but my intentions of buying a vinyl system for the specific purposes of putting it in a rustic cabin makes me feel a certain way about my music. I feel more actively involved and my attention is held more by the music. I can't really explain it, it's just how I feel about it.

If I hit play on a playlist of 20000 songs, I easily become distracted by other things.
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