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Same thing? I am back home, listening to the M-5060R/P-3060R right now, and the knob is literally like a column of steel. It is pretty awesome.

I wish there was a way I could audition gear -- I am listening to the pieces of music I am best acquainted with (everything from Muse to Joni Mitchell), and am pretty blown away right now. Especially with Joni's Blue; impressed that the mastering was so good in 1970-something.

I am also considering a newer lightweight Marantz amp (like 85w), along with some older Bryston amps. I'm also pretty convinced that I am going to get the Rega turntable, too.

~ H

Same thing in terms of relative sound quality between the era you have and modern stuff.

Up until headphones became so popular recordings were more often of excellent quality, but ever since the compression took over to optimize for all that ipod shit the quality of recordings has dropped off a cliff.

Of what you mentioned, I would probably prefer the Bryston. Rega makes a solid turntable.
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+1 on Rega.  Spend some cash on a good cartridge.  You will not be disappointed.

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At $500 for integrated and $500 for speakers I would look at used Rotel or NAD gear. Both are great.

For speakers, look at Magnepan MMGs, Paradigm or PSB monitors, or audioengine speakers.

MMGs are really terrific for the money. I friend of mine just got a pair of these and they sound excellent...

http://www.magnepan.com/model_MMG

Free 30 day in-home trial as well so you can hear them in your own room which is important for acoustics.

http://www.magnepan.com/dealer_direct

 

Just wanted to say that Mangepan's website is really, really, really thoughtful and helpful. +1! I'll be out on business near a Maggie dealer in a few months, so I will go down and have a listen. I am really interested to hear how these things sound.

 

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Same thing in terms of relative sound quality between the era you have and modern stuff.

Up until headphones became so popular recordings were more often of excellent quality, but ever since the compression took over to optimize for all that ipod shit the quality of recordings has dropped off a cliff.

Of what you mentioned, I would probably prefer the Bryston. Rega makes a solid turntable.

 

Ah, ok. I am looking at a stack of NAD and Rotel amps now, too.

 

Yeah, compression is a killer. Though I hate to blame headphones for it -- I do enjoy some good cans, though I don't have an Mp3 player.

 

~ H
 

 

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Ah, ok. I am looking at a stack of NAD and Rotel amps now, too.

Yeah, compression is a killer. Though I hate to blame headphones for it -- I do enjoy some good cans, though I don't have an Mp3 player.

NAD and Rotel are great hi-end starter brands and make much better stuff than Onkyo. I have turned dozens of folks onto those 2 brands who were mired in the consumer Best Buy type stuff (Harmon, Denon, Onkyo, Pioneer, etc) and they all love it. Save for one friend that complained "there are not enough buttons" - he missed the "concert, jazz, and rock" equalizer settings.

Re recordings, blame portable music and the delivery mechanism. Listen to a really well recorded album from the 70's and it will sound horrid thru earbuds and an ipod.
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Level compression is more of a result of radio, and a positive feedback loop of bands trying to top each other ("OMG!1! They sound so much louder than us. Make us louder!"). There are also a lot more prosumer audio producers out there now due to the proliferation of technology, and for the most part they just don't know to make good-sounding records. The old dinosaur record companies got big and rich for a reason --- they knew how to find talent and make them sound good, but these days, most of them have lost their way.
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Onkyo came out with a pretty well-reviewed amp around five years ago It has the apparently desirable metal knob. A solid, 30-pound tank of an amp, too. Sounds as good as some $2000 amps I've owned for about $500 street.

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Now they've got this stuff. Also with metal knobs. Cost about six grand all together.

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This might not be the best thread for my post but I figure that I can get some good answers from the knowledgeable folks here.

I've been buying lots of vinyl over the last few years, mainly because most of the music I like is released exclusively on that format. I do enjoy handling records though.

I have a pretty basic setup - Pro-Ject Debut III turntable, Technics amp, Denon CD player, Denon tape deck, vintage Image speakers, Grado SR-60 headphones.

There must be something I'm doing wrong, because I honestly don't understand how people can be so adamant about the superior sound quality of vinyl. I try to keep my records as clean as possible and remove all visible dust with a carbon fibre brush. I've also recently changed the stylus on my turntable. Even with brand new records, I hear regular hisses and pops in the background. They're faint but more noticeable when I use headphones. Unlike my CDs, there is never any true silence during pauses in the music or between tracks.

Any thoughts?
Edited by JohnnyLaw - 4/15/12 at 1:27pm
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Miles Davis Milestone right now

 

McIntosh MA6600 in a custom cabinet matching the rest of the woodwork

CA Dac Magic (fed as follows: PS3 fiber, a laptop USB, all ripped lossless) ASIO4/foobar, MUCH better than media player or anything else I've heard (I'm sure there's better though)

XL to the amp

Monitor Audio RX6's

great listening room, 35 x 15 or so, 8 ft ceiling, nice neutral acoustics

 

nothing really high end, but I enjoy it

I'm over my equipment phase, which lasted 30 years, lol, but imho the sound is better than my hearing

 

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This might not be the best thread for my post but I figure that I can get some good answers from the knowledgeable folks here.
I've been buying lots of vinyl over the last few years, mainly because most of the music I like is released exclusively on that format. I do enjoy handling records though.
I have a pretty basic setup - Pro-Ject Debut III turntable, Technics amp, Denon CD player, Denon tape deck, vintage Image speakers, Grado SR-60 headphones.
There must be something I'm doing wrong, because I honestly don't understand how people can be so adamant about the superior sound quality of vinyl. I try to keep my records as clean as possible and remove all visible dust with a carbon fibre brush. I've also recently changed the stylus on my turntable. Even with brand new records, I hear regular hisses and pops in the background. They're faint but more noticeable when I use headphones. Unlike my CDs, there is never any true silence during pauses in the music or between tracks.
Any thoughts?


Thats pretty normal, you're never going to get a silence. Is it just the hiss or is it very loud?
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Thats pretty normal, you're never going to get a silence. Is it just the hiss or is it very loud?

It's a quiet hiss with occasional short bursts of static that I can sometimes hear through the music. If I pay attention, it's noticeable.
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It's a quiet hiss with occasional short bursts of static that I can sometimes hear through the music. If I pay attention, it's noticeable.

Thats analog. There are ways to minimize it, but its always going to be there. The popping is dust, that will happen from time to time.
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Thats analog. There are ways to minimize it, but its always going to be there. The popping is dust, that will happen from time to time.

That's what I thought and I'm OK with it at these levels but I just assumed that there was something I was doing wrong since enthusiasts are always waxing lyrical about warmth and depth of sound but never seem to mention the hisses and pops that I guess are inevitable when you've got a needle scraping against a vinyl disk.
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Are these really that good? I admit they look really nice for their age. http://www.ebay.com/itm/270955081162?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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Are these really that good? I admit they look really nice for their age. http://www.ebay.com/itm/270955081162?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

No. Don't buy.
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