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post #2011 of 2376
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Originally Posted by Artisan Fan View Post

Interesting idea but it's difficult at best to capture the quality of playback and one's room acoustics.
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Originally Posted by Andrewc2232 View Post

And even if you captured it, now pass it on through another battery of amplification and through another set of speakers? Would have as much to do with how a system actually sounds as any other random sound clip. It would be nice, but if it were that easy the idea of auditioning equipment would change dramatically. Why go listen to some new speakers when I can download a sample?

Haha, I was kidding.
post #2012 of 2376
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Beolit uses airplay, so until Mountain Lion rolls around (which allows you to select an airplay speaker as an external audio device for the whole system) your Mac is limited to iTunes for communication with the Beolit. There are programs that help you get around that, but in my experience, they don't work consistently well. By the by, wasn't super impressed with the Beolit when I auditioned it at home. It looks really pretty, but audio was so so. Same for the Libratone Lounge. Only airplay speaker that seems to sound really good (maybe it was my low expectations?) is the Klipsch G-17 Air. It sounded pretty amazing actually.

Thanks for the review! I haven' tried Airplay yet, and it made no sense to me that it couldn't be used as a simple external audio device. I'm glad Mountain Lion will fix that. I'll try to give both the B&O and Klipsch systems a try if they are in the Apple Store. I think an airplay system would work best for me, since I have a small house and don't want to run wires everywhere.
post #2013 of 2376
My trusty Naim CDX has broken. Dealer has left me new ND5 SX (DAC + streamer client), DAC and UnitiServe to demo.

So, far USB memory sticks with hi rez WAV files sound best - amazing really.
post #2014 of 2376

I found the audio on the Beolit to be quite good.  To each his own.  Best to try and decide for your own self.

post #2015 of 2376
I have a Teufel Motiv 5 (5.1). Wouldn't buy it again. Not that it's bad, I just think a pair of studio monitors in that price range (I've paid 550€ or so) would be better -- even though the 5.1 is nice for movies.

For my iPod I use Ultimate Ears triple fi 10. A bit bulky but the sound is nice. Pretty hi-fi for the money and decent bass-feel.
post #2016 of 2376
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Originally Posted by Edgein View Post

I found the audio on the Beolit to be quite good.  To each his own.  Best to try and decide for your own self.

I'll definitely listen to both before buying. Frankly, I like the look of the Beolit more, but the sound will of course help me decide.
post #2017 of 2376
I'm streaming via Sonos, with a Cambridge intergrated amp, Linn Tukan speakers and I use iTunes. I'm about to pick a DAC, probably Cambridge's DAC magic.

Can someone help me understand HD files? Is HD Tracks the best service, and will I have to use something other than iTunes?
post #2018 of 2376
Hey, I need a little help. I know precious little about stereo equipment, but my receiver is starting to flake out on my and will need to be replaced soon. When I replaced my huge college speakers because they didn't fit in my living room, I bought a subwoofer so that music wouldn't sound tinny on the little speakers. Worked fine, I was satisfied. Now I want to be sure that I get a powerful enough amp to drive the speaker set up, at least until I eventually upgrade some of that (still a ways off).

It is a passive subwoofer, and says that it handles 100 W (RMS) and Maximum Power 200W. I have vague recollections that seem to be in conflict. On the one hand, too powerful of an amp would blow out the speakers, right? On the other hand, it seems like I've read somewhere that I acually need more power so that the amp can drive the speakers without getting close to its own capacity. What do I actually want?

(Oh yeah, I'm *NOT* trying to be the loudest house on the block, I just want to enjoy listening to music.)

Thanks guys, and if there's a better thread to ask, or if I should start a new thread, just say so.

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Edited by Patrologia - 3/11/12 at 6:50am
post #2019 of 2376
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Originally Posted by mikeH View Post

Hey, I need a little help. I know precious little about stereo equipment, but my receiver is starting to flake out on my and will need to be replaced soon. When I replaced my huge college speakers because they didn't fit in my living room, I bought a subwoofer so that music wouldn't sound tinny on the little speakers. Worked fine, I was satisfied. Now I want to be sure that I get a powerful enough amp to drive the speaker set up, at least until I eventually upgrade some of that (still a ways off).
It is a passive subwoofer, and says that it handles 100 W (RMS) and Maximum Power 200W. I have vague recollections that seem to be in conflict. On the one hand, too powerful of an amp would blow out the speakers, right? On the other hand, it seems like I've read somewhere that I acually need more power so that the amp can drive the speakers without getting close to its own capacity. What do I actually want?
(Oh yeah, I'm trying to be the loudest house on the block, I just want to enjoy listening to music.)
Thanks guys, and if there's a better thread to ask, or if I should start a new thread, just say so.

Actually, that's a false perception. Power doesn't blow speakers, distortion does.

You dont necessarily need either option. There is also a school of thought that an amp sounds best in a certain range of its power band. At the volumes you are looking to listen at, pretty much any amp will work. The stuff you are talking about gets much more into hi-end concepts. I wouldn't worry about it until you want to upgrade.

You should be concerned more about underpowering than overpowering. Underpowering doesnt allow the drivers in the speakers to create enough sound pressure in the room. Overpowering just makes it so the volume knob is used at a much lower range. Technically its much easier to blow weaker speakers with a very powerful amp, but you'd have to way overdrive them.

One way to know is to look up the sensitivity of the speakers. Its usually written on them, otherwise the manual. If they are about 89db or over, pretty much anything can run them. Lower than 89, into the 86 and 83 range and you need to think about it. Dynaudio, for example, is famous for their inefficient designs are are notoriously difficult to run.
post #2020 of 2376
Thanks idfnl. Just noticed that I'd mis-stated my goals, but I think you understood me anyway. I'll look for a bigger amp to be able to drive the speakers, and try to find the efficiency info. Sounds interesting.
post #2021 of 2376

Drove like an hour to pick up a tank of an Onkyo Integra integrated amp. Volume knob was kinda wonky, and since I don't want to be fixing anything, I passed. It was a shame since the guy wanted ~$75 for an amp that is >$300 on eBay. I was also a little disillusioned by the lack of build quality -- I expected the volume knob to be seemingly milled from a solid block of steel like my father's old P-306 preamp. It was kinda cheap and plastic-y feeling. Bah.

 

post #2022 of 2376
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Originally Posted by Huntsman View Post

Drove like an hour to pick up a tank of an Onkyo Integra integrated amp. Volume knob was kinda wonky, and since I don't want to be fixing anything, I passed. It was a shame since the guy wanted ~$75 for an amp that is >$300 on eBay. I was also a little disillusioned by the lack of build quality -- I expected the volume knob to be seemingly milled from a solid block of steel like my father's old P-306 preamp. It was kinda cheap and plastic-y feeling. Bah.

Recent Onkyo? You'd be lucky if that volume knob was milled from cardboard.
post #2023 of 2376

Nah, late '80s. I feel like a dilettante complaining about the way the knob feels! But it is weakening my resolve to not buy an M-506 amplifier and preamp. They're just so pretty.

 

post #2024 of 2376
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Originally Posted by Huntsman View Post

Nah, late '80s. I feel like a dilettante complaining about the way the knob feels! But it is weakening my resolve to not buy an M-506 amplifier and preamp. They're just so pretty.

Same thing. Late 70's and early 80's is where the construction quality of Onkyo was better. I personally never rated them, but they are ok. If I were to buy something vintage like this, I would prefer a Sansui or Marantz. For what you want, get a used Rotel or NAD. Much better than the Onkyo.


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post #2025 of 2376

Same thing? I am back home, listening to the M-5060R/P-3060R right now, and the knob is literally like a column of steel. It is pretty awesome.

 

I wish there was a way I could audition gear -- I am listening to the pieces of music I am best acquainted with (everything from Muse to Joni Mitchell), and am pretty blown away right now. Especially with Joni's Blue; impressed that the mastering was so good in 1970-something.

 

I am also considering a newer lightweight Marantz amp (like 85w), along with some older Bryston amps. I'm also pretty convinced that I am going to get the Rega turntable, too.

 

~ H

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