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Originally Posted by zbromer View Post

How is the quality of their fabric? People seem to be posting more of it recently in this thread.

Quality is middling. The Dugdale / Fisher stuff is better at the same price.
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I have suits made from most of the well known names that get thrown around here, the Huddersfield fabrics compare very well and the prices are very good. People should order and see for themselves. I think you will be impressed - if not your experiment wasn't all that costly.
post #6888 of 10778
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Originally Posted by jerrybrowne View Post

Actually, I was pretty impressed, especially for the price. Plus they are very easy to work with. The linens are just okay, however.

They have become a lot more expensive lately plus they stopped sending swatches. I agree regarding the linen - the HFW / Minnis linen is a lot better.
post #6889 of 10778
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Originally Posted by Grammaton Cleric View Post

Quality is middling. The Dugdale / Fisher stuff is better at the same price.

I agree with that.However, they are not getting cheap lately.
post #6890 of 10778
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Originally Posted by Slickman View Post

Some of the things being put out by LL are just ridiculous in form and price, 1000g cashmere overcoating for example was upwards of 400-500 pounds per meter, and if it rains, I doubt the high quality kashmir will last

Frankly, I don't think the pricing of LL cashmere is that insane. The Etna, as posted by tchoy, was 280 pounds pr. meter, which is no doubt a lot of money. However, compared to for example Harrison's Saltire bunch, which, if I remember correctly, is around 400 pounds pr. meter for a mere 11 oz, 280 pounds for 18 oz isn't that insane at all...
post #6891 of 10778
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Originally Posted by S K M View Post


Frankly, I don't think the pricing of LL cashmere is that insane. The Etna, as posted by tchoy, was 280 pounds pr. meter, which is no doubt a lot of money. However, compared to for example Harrison's Saltire bunch, which, if I remember correctly, is around 400 pounds pr. meter for a mere 11 oz, 280 pounds for 18 oz isn't that insane at all...

 

Yes, but with the Saltire you're paying for all the distributor mark-ups in between. In the case of the LL cloth, you're buying direct from the mill. That's a big difference.

 

While I appreciate what Alden is doing, and am the happy owner of 3 LL cloths, it amazes me how he has really desensitized members into paying high markups as a matter of course. Any way you cut it, 100 gbp / meter for a regular fabric is exorbitant.

post #6892 of 10778
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Originally Posted by Grammaton Cleric View Post


Quality is middling. The Dugdale / Fisher stuff is better at the same price.

 

+1 - mediocre stuff. Rian Taylor also hopped from Dugdales to HC.com w/o informing me of the change, so I thought I was buying regular Dugdale / Fisher goods.

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To me it sounds that you guys like the London lounge cloths but just don't like the price. The LL price is similar to what I have paid for Lesser. The fact that people are willing to pay the asked price means it is market price. Of course, that doesn't mean you have to like the market price.
post #6894 of 10778
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Originally Posted by poorsod View Post

To me it sounds that you guys like the London lounge cloths but just don't like the price. The LL price is similar to what I have paid for Lesser. The fact that people are willing to pay the asked price means it is market price. Of course, that doesn't mean you have to like the market price.

 

True, the price should be one that the market can bear, and he seems to have nailed that. I just remain amazed at the recalibration in customer expectations that seems to have taken place.

 

Btw, if you're paying that much for Lessers (other than Golden Bale), then you're getting cheated. I would suggest you explore alternate sources.

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I was getting Lesser first via Jodek then Isles. My impression is that some people here have their own internal sources and don't necessarily go through the regular distribution channels.
Edited by poorsod - 7/25/13 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by Eustace Tilley View Post

True, the price should be one that the market can bear, and he seems to have nailed that. I just remain amazed at the recalibration in customer expectations that seems to have taken place.

I tend to look at it from this perspective: if a particular LL cloth is something I really can't find elsewhere, then I need to decide whether it's a cloth for which I'm willing to pay the tariff demanded. If a particular LL cloth is something for which there appears to be a reasonable substitute available in the marketplace, then the question becomes whether I prefer the alternative at its price over the LL offering at its price.

I realize this is stating the obvious a bit, but I do think that some of the LL offerings are more distinctive than others, and when Michael comes up with something that I both (1) like and (2) can't find elsewhere, I tend to be more willing to consider paying a price that is on the high side for "cloth" in general.
post #6897 of 10778
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Originally Posted by poorsod View Post

I was getting Lesser first via Jodek then Isles. My impression is that some people here have their own internal sources and don't necessarily go through the regular distribution channels.

 

Yup, with Jodek / Isles and the like you're subject to distributor markups. If you choose to buy direct, or via a proxy, Lesser and Smiths are 45-55 gbp / meter.

 

ghermann: I agree. The 3 LL cloths I own are patterns that are hard to find elsewhere - the grey Agnelli windowpane, the RAF PoW Piuma, and a brown Shetland w/ blue windowpanes.

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Originally Posted by Burton View Post

I have suits made from most of the well known names that get thrown around here, the Huddersfield fabrics compare very well and the prices are very good. People should order and see for themselves. I think you will be impressed - if not your experiment wasn't all that costly.


+1

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It was silly to have made a completely separate thread about this as I am sure it'll be easier to get answers in here.

Kiton has a 14 micron super 180s fabric. If I wanted this in black, or something very similar, what are my options?
post #6900 of 10778
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Originally Posted by haganah View Post

It was silly to have made a completely separate thread about this as I am sure it'll be easier to get answers in here.

Kiton has a 14 micron super 180s fabric. If I wanted this in black, or something very similar, what are my options?

 

I assume you want this for black tie? Are you just looking for something lightweight?

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