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post #6781 of 9823
Speaking of Huddersfield, I'm thinking of ordering something from them in H7214. Unfortunately they won't send me any swatches. Anyone happen to have this swatch IRL, or have seen it IRL? Just want to know if the colour on the site is accurate:

post #6782 of 9823
Second question: what kind of lining options do you guys go with in relation to Minnis Fresco?

I am tossing up whether to get something in the 250/280gms range, or the 280/310gms range.

I have read that, obviously, the lighter one wears cooler, but has some drape problems. That, though, was contradicted by Manton & ors a few pages ago.

I have also heard that they can be somewhat see-through - if I go for a half-lining, would a lighter colour be better?

In terms of pants - lined or unlined?

Interestingly, it seems that the 280/310gms range actually has a looser weave than the tighter, finer 250/280gm range, and is actually more see-through than the lighter weight cloth:

(280/310gm is on the right)

post #6783 of 9823
I'd never get fresco pants lined - really defeats the purpose IMO
post #6784 of 9823
The pair I have is only lined in the front, so that still allows for air circulation in the rear. You can always have the lining removed very easily.
post #6785 of 9823
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

The pair I have is only lined in the front, so that still allows for air circulation in the rear. You can always have the lining removed very easily.

Same here. I have frankly never found trouser linings to be that warm.
post #6786 of 9823
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Originally Posted by ThinkDerm View Post

figured. why not keep for original intended use?

Honestly, bespoke has becoming a little too expensive for me...I have one more overcoat I'd like in the next few years and maybe a couple of sportcoats down the road. I've also been sending a lot of my discretionary funds to the business and a new hobby, whiskey...so I can get a nice bottle or two for what I paid for the overcoating if I can recoup the funds...smile.gif
post #6787 of 9823
It's a nice cloth, but sadly, 3 yards is not enough for a full-length OC.
post #6788 of 9823
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Originally Posted by lachyzee View Post

Second question: what kind of lining options do you guys go with in relation to Minnis Fresco?

I am tossing up whether to get something in the 250/280gms range, or the 280/310gms range.

I have read that, obviously, the lighter one wears cooler, but has some drape problems. That, though, was contradicted by Manton & ors a few pages ago.

I have also heard that they can be somewhat see-through - if I go for a half-lining, would a lighter colour be better?

In terms of pants - lined or unlined?

Interestingly, it seems that the 280/310gms range actually has a looser weave than the tighter, finer 250/280gm range, and is actually more see-through than the lighter weight cloth:

(280/310gm is on the right)
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Wait there are two different weights for each Fresco color, i.e. 0520 will be 250/280gms range OR 280/310gms?
post #6789 of 9823
Not all but some. You need to peruse the book.
post #6790 of 9823
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Originally Posted by badsha View Post

Wait there are two different weights for each Fresco color, i.e. 0520 will be 250/280gms range OR 280/310gms?

No.

There are usually similar colours in each weight range, but they aren't exactly the same.
post #6791 of 9823
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Originally Posted by add911_11 View Post

I had the 'Eden in Paris' vol.1 before I worn the suit out. It is an excellent cloth to wear and tailors great, however it is quiet a old school stiff flannel, not everyone's cup of tea.

Also I wish the patterns are brighter, nevermind it is one of the best flannel I had encountered.

I don't know why you feel the 'Eden in Paris' vol.1 "stiff", for me they are much softer than the Minnis flannel.
post #6792 of 9823
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Originally Posted by Fishball View Post

I don't know why you feel the 'Eden in Paris' vol.1 "stiff", for me they are much softer than the Minnis flannel.

There are softer brands outside, they are just relatively stiff. I agree with you that Minnis flannel is stiffer than LL offerings.

btw, for proper stiff flannels, I much prefer 2080 by A. Harrison
post #6793 of 9823
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Originally Posted by add911_11 View Post

There are softer brands outside, they are just relatively stiff. I agree with you that Minnis flannel is stiffer than LL offerings.

btw, for proper stiff flannels, I much prefer 2080 by A. Harrison

oh, yes, VBC flannel is much softer if you like.
My Scabal flannel is also softer.
But I like the LL EIP hands anyway.
post #6794 of 9823
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Originally Posted by Fishball View Post

oh, yes, VBC flannel is much softer if you like.
My Scabal flannel is also softer.
But I like the LL EIP hands anyway.

I thought you don't wear heavy cloth that much in Hong Kong? I believe there are reissues of Eden in Paris, hence the character of the fabrics differ from batches.

BTW, do you know where I can source English thick (best 12-14oz) ivory Flannel? I do not need a big brand as long as it is good stuff.
post #6795 of 9823

My London Lounge Piuma (dark navy) arrived today.  Gorgeous colour that will look fantastic under both sunlight and artificial light - exactly what I was after.

 

I can't easily attest to its wrinkle-resisting capabilities yet but I have every faith that Alden has produced the world's best travel cloth after years in the making.

 

Despite its matte finish I think it has too tight a weave to be used as a BlazerSuit as originally planned.  Here in the UK, patch pockets would have raised a few eyebrows so perhaps it's done me a favour!

 

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