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post #6691 of 11056
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Originally Posted by Slewfoot View Post

And too much talk recently and not enough pictures...very happy to see LL re-commissioning this fabric. Always wanted it.

 

The Dugdale White Rose Saxony is also a good collection of similar fabrics. 15oz Tweed and has a great feel.

 

post #6692 of 11056
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

My sources say Tip Top gets them. I know some people who are fed up with Tip Top because when they compare their lengths from Tip Top to the real thing from vendors it is clearly not the same fabric. One case somebody I know bought Dormeuil and it was spelled wrong on the selvedge.
That is ridiculous. It is a completely different fabric quality. Why not just buy suiting from China then?

I just caught this. I have no connection to Tip Top other than as a customer but I do these remarks to be offensive. You essentially have accused them of criminal conduct (marketing counterfeit goods) based on hearsay (I gather you have never been there) and, if false, those accusations are per se defamatory. I suggest that you let your "sources" speak for themselves. Otherwise, your rumor mongering does no one any good and has the potential to harm a business that, in my experience, is on the up and up. BTW, you do know that most of the tailors in NYC, including your own, frequently buy fabric from Tip Top.
post #6693 of 11056
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Originally Posted by etkl View Post

I just caught this. I have no connection to Tip Top other than as a customer but I do these remarks to be offensive. You essentially have accused them of criminal conduct (marketing counterfeit goods) based on hearsay (I gather you have never been there) and, if false, those accusations are per se defamatory. I suggest that you let your "sources" speak for themselves. Otherwise, your rumor mongering does no one any good and has the potential to harm a business that, in my experience, is on the up and up. BTW, you do know that most of the tailors in NYC, including your own, frequently buy fabric from Tip Top.

I never said any of this is fact, but just what I have heard. It was also stated that if they did sell counterfeit fabric they probably didn't know it. Truth of the matter is counterfeits exist and if you aren't ordering from the mill there is potential to buy a fake, like it or not. I'm simply saying I personally am not buying fabrics from them. I am well aware my tailor, plus many other buy from them. As to never having been there? I live about 10 blocks away from them. rolleyes.gif
post #6694 of 11056
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Originally Posted by Slewfoot View Post


The sooner one realizes this the better. One can try and negate just how fucked (hot) one will be by the slightest increments, but I've learned to accept the fact that no matter what you wear in hot, muggy Summers you're fucked. Suck it up and deal or just wear shorts. Here endeth the lesson.

 

Very true. I wish I was one of those guys that don't tend to sweat a lot. As a Spaniard I can definately tolerate heat itself very well but I just can't stand the sweaty mess I become. The only thing you can do if you wish to wear coat and tie, it's crazy hot and you sweat like a pig is to wear the tie, yes, but carry the jacket on your arm instead of actually wearing it tounge.gif

post #6695 of 11056
Since you've been there, do you have first-hand evidence that they sell counterfeit goods? If yes, please tell us what it is? If yes, have you brought it to their attention?

If no, your defense that "you didn't state it as a fact" is pretty lame. It wouldn't be much of defense in court and, more importantly, it hardly mitigates the harm your comments might cause Tip Top. I don't know what you do for a living, but I'm sure you wouldn't be quite so nonchalant if someone casually posted that sources revealed that you are a crook in your business dealings.

Unless you have something else of a factual nature to offer, I suggest that you delete the offending emails. if not I request that the moderator do so.
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Thread Starter 
this is not a court, it's a discussion forum. One of its primary sources of usefulness is to discuss exactly these issues.
post #6697 of 11056
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Originally Posted by Eustace Tilley View Post

Worth noting that Minnis will be releasing a new collection next week called Sunara - 70% Fresco / 30% Mohair. Should be worth a look.

Interesting...

Thanks for the heads up.
post #6698 of 11056
Right because things on Style Forum are never said that might hurt businesses. rolleyes.gif If a moderator wants me to delete it I will, but I sure as hell won't for some guy with his panties in a bunch.
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The fact that this is not a court is completely irrelevant to the point I'm making. It's a point of principle. In my opinion, a forum like SF should not publish unverified accusations of criminal activity. This issue does not involve differences in taste or debates about the usual trivia that people here get ripped about. This is an issue of fact that relates to the integrity of a business that can real consequences in the real world. The fact that posters are anonymous and, as a pratical matter, can post anything with impunity doesn't mean they should be allowed to.

To me it's an ovious point of priciple but, unlike Foo, I would spend my whole day trying to pound people into submission. If you don't see it, sobeit.
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Thread Starter 
No one is alleging criminal activity on the part of TT. Rather, the point is, they may inadvertently be getting fakes and reselling them. This is useful for potential buyers to hear.
post #6701 of 11056
Please let me know if anyone has interest in Hemp/Wool fabric for a casual sport coat or suit. This would be a group buy and at cost.
post #6702 of 11056
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Originally Posted by badsha View Post

Please let me know if anyone has interest in Hemp/Wool fabric for a casual sport coat or suit. This would be a group buy and at cost.

 

Marling & Evans?

 

I refuse to buy special runs for less than 100 gbp / meter. Is this counterfeit cloth? tongue.gif

post #6703 of 11056
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Originally Posted by etkl View Post

Since you've been there, do you have first-hand evidence that they sell counterfeit goods? If yes, please tell us what it is? If yes, have you brought it to their attention?

If no, your defense that "you didn't state it as a fact" is pretty lame. It wouldn't be much of defense in court and, more importantly, it hardly mitigates the harm your comments might cause Tip Top. I don't know what you do for a living, but I'm sure you wouldn't be quite so nonchalant if someone casually posted that sources revealed that you are a crook in your business dealings.

Unless you have something else of a factual nature to offer, I suggest that you delete the offending emails. if not I request that the moderator do so.


Dude, you're way to sensitive when people say anything not entirely complimentary about some shop / maker / jobber that you like.

People come here to exchange information and views. If you don't like what someone said, offer a different opinion, don't get all pouty because someone shared their view.
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No Delfino. Italian Mill. Pricing would be 40 GBP per meter I believe. Havent worked out the logistics yet.
post #6705 of 11056
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Originally Posted by badsha View Post

No Delfino. Italian Mill. Pricing would be 40 GBP per meter I believe. Havent worked out the logistics yet.

 

Del Fino is a good mill, and that is a fair price. Any pics?

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