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My Crispaire trousers are 280/310g. This is what the weave looks like:

 

 

I don't think it's as open as Minnis, so you probably were looking at a different thing. Cape Horn has a similar weave and comes in 8oz weight, still not a very very open weave though...

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I love the Minnis fresco, but I wish there were more color options.
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This was lighter @ 8oz. Does crispaire go that low? If so, that might have been it.

Yes, Crispaire. JP Hardy's and RDiaz pents are the older stuff. It wears, makes and drapes great.
post #6634 of 11058
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Yes, Crispaire. JP Hardy's and RDiaz pents are the older stuff. It wears, makes and drapes great.

WAT. Had no idea the new book was like that. Is the more open weave stuff from the 2013 collection or even older? 

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WAT. Had no idea the new book was like that. Is the more open weave stuff from the 2013 collection or even older? 
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Edit: Sorry. It's a reflex.
post #6636 of 11058
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Retail, pricing on cloth has gotten insane. I recall having ordered from Fox and all in cost, including customs and shipping was $66/m Base price was 33 Sterling/m
Granted, that was part of a group buy where we each ordered five different suiting lengths of 5m each, but it gives you an idea of the change.

 

 

Damn Alden and all his bloody nonsense.  Last year it was £46/m ex-VAT.

post #6637 of 11058
Interesting, I was debating between Fox and Minnis navy chalkstripe flannel for the winter, I don't own anything Fox, although Minnis Flannel is prob milled by them
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I have a suit in 3912. It's a beautiful shade of navy, very "blue" in person when made up, and even "bright" in some lights. I would hesitate to order a lighter shade than that as I think it would substantially limit the versatility.

Also, these are NOT hopsacks. They are plain weaves with a smooth finish. I don't believe there are any true basketweaves in the Botany line, though Steadfast has some great ones.

I was looking at getting a similar light blue suit made but am debating the whole versatility thing - don know if it would fly at the office (I work for a bank), although suppose it would work quit well for a wedding I have coming up. What does everyone think of the light grey fabric in the pic? Thanks.

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Butler, for those of us without bulters, that is not so realistic ...


Sir, It would be a distinct pleasure serving you
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Sir, It would be a distinct pleasure serving you
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probably not so affordable, though!
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Does the color of fabrics make a difference in the hand? I have a Minnis fresco in navy, and charcoal both in the same weight, but they feel very different and the weave is even so subtly different. Is that just what happens with different runs over time? They were purchased about a year apart from each other.
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Does the color of fabrics make a difference in the hand? I have a Minnis fresco in navy, and charcoal both in the same weight, but they feel very different and the weave is even so subtly different. Is that just what happens with different runs over time? They were purchased about a year apart from each other.

 

Nothing unusual, there is always some variance between runs.

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Grays are typically made by blending yarns in various shades of black, white and gray. maybe somehow those yarns are not all the same? I can't see how the dye would do that but I don't know.

Blues OTOH are typically made from the same batch of yarn, all dyed the same, 100%
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Interesting. It is nothing troubling to me, just a curious thing I noticed. Probably has to do with the blending like you said.
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If you're trying to save money, don't get fresco. It's more expensive than most of the other stuff on your list.

What are the other next best alternatives? Just in case? I might just splurge for Frescos as a long term investment. 

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Couple things about linen:

-It looks really great. The best summer look, IMO.

-You definitely should not be ironing it after every wear. If you can't bear to be seen in wrinkles, you are not ready for linen.

-It's cooling properties are, at least for me, over-stated. I believe that thread for thread linen wears cooler than anything else. E.g., my linen and line-cotton shirts wear much cooler than pure cotton. However, as a suiting or jacketing, linen needs to be woven in a substantial weight, 10 to 14 ounces is typical, and at that weight I find it wears warm. So, for me, the coolest wearing suits I have are the very light Minnis frescos, Wodehouse Summer Comfort (which is even lighter), and 7 ounce cotton.

Can you please share - The rate/ price for these fabrics you recommended? And how/ where can I source them? As you may have noticed I am rather new at this. 
PS: What is this wodehouse summer comfort? 

 

Also I am BOLDING/ MARKING the information from these posts. I'd appreciate more clear insight on PRICES/ SOURCES as I am new to this. 

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I just gently iron the creases in linen trousers after every wear; I don't mind the wrinkles but at the same time I like my trousers to have a crease. After ironing the creases there are still plenty of wrinkles present anyways. Unfortunately its cooling properties are even more over-stated for me :( . I sweat like crazy wearing the stuff, and once it's wet it takes ages to get dry. So it's pretty much just trousers for me, and I still prefer fresco or lightweight cotton....

 

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This 7 ounce cotton sounds really nice. Any recommendations on where to look? I honestly know next to nothing about fabric houses, and even less when it comes to cotton. It's something that I really want to educate myself more on, generally speaking.

 

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I guess my minds been warped, but 13oz would be too hot for summer, so I'd say if one can, a navy fresco fills that void in the summer months. I thought steadfast was heavier, guess i was wrong on that count.

 

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That's a sound idea.

Also, I was handling some Holland and Sherry fresco like fabric the other day. Not sure what it is official called, but it was 8oz and very open weave. May even be mores so than the Minnis. Anybody have experience with how it wears?

 

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My Crispaire trousers are 280/310g. This is what the weave looks like:

 

 

I don't think it's as open as Minnis, so you probably were looking at a different thing. Cape Horn has a similar weave and comes in 8oz weight, still not a very very open weave though...

 

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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post


Yes, Crispaire. JP Hardy's and RDiaz pents are the older stuff. It wears, makes and drapes great.

 

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Damn Alden and all his bloody nonsense.  Last year it was £46/m ex-VAT.

 

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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Does the color of fabrics make a difference in the hand? I have a Minnis fresco in navy, and charcoal both in the same weight, but they feel very different and the weave is even so subtly different. Is that just what happens with different runs over time? They were purchased about a year apart from each other.

 

I am realizing that some of these fabrics are expensive but some information on price and sources and direction/ guidance on them would be nice.  

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