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post #4696 of 11667
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Originally Posted by Eustace Tilley View Post

You make it sound like she's intransigent, which has never been my experience.
No, she's always been incredibly flexible with requests I've come up with. But there are times when the talent in the back room just won't deliver on, or understand a request. Sounds like there's some room to experiment.
post #4697 of 11667
35244 is what you need weight wise for boston
post #4698 of 11667
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Originally Posted by Despos View Post

I don't think this is so

Looking at some birdseye up close,


It seems like you can only get that sort of pattern by occasionally going over two warp yarns at a time.

Which I don't think you'd be able to do and maintain a high twist.


Of the easily Googleable images for birdseye pattern, this looks to me most like what you see on the suiting-

and it appears to show that you'd alternatively go over two yarns / threads on a few of the lines.

And when was the last time that deependoftheloom.blogspot steered you wrong?


At any rate, I'll be interested to hear what Minnis have to say.
post #4699 of 11667
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Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post

Looking at some birdseye up close,

Closer...

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post #4700 of 11667
Isn't the difference this, birdseye is a round pattern and nailhead a jagged less rounded design? This looks like a nailhead pattern. Are there examples of both?
post #4701 of 11667
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Originally Posted by Cravate_Noire View Post


What book are these from?
post #4702 of 11667
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Originally Posted by Despos View Post

Isn't the difference this, birdseye is a round pattern and nailhead a jagged less rounded design? This looks like a nailhead pattern. Are there examples of both?

I thought this was nailhead-


But maybe that's wrong.

At any rate, the weave above seems like it could be easily done as a simple over/under/over/under
which I'm guessing- maybe also wrongly - that you need in order to maintain a high twist.
post #4703 of 11667
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Originally Posted by Despos View Post

Isn't the difference this, birdseye is a round pattern and nailhead a jagged less rounded design? This looks like a nailhead pattern. Are there examples of both?

The one I posted, is this:

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post #4704 of 11667
What you call nailhead I call pin dot but I don't how correct that is.

High twist relates to the yarn not the weave. Two threads are twisted together to make a 2 ply yarn. There are formulas of how much you can twist the threads and when you exceed those formula amounts and twist the threads beyond that point it is called high twist. It adds spring and makes the cloth more resilient. That's how it has been explained to me.
post #4705 of 11667
lets compromise and call it pinhead.
post #4706 of 11667
I was under the impression that nailhead was a different pattern and weave altogether--more square looking, vs the rounded look of birdseye. I would have called NOBD's examples birdseye for sure. Can't see Cantabrigian's example closely enough, but looks like a totally different weave, and what I would have called nailhead.

Now I'm just confused frown.gif
post #4707 of 11667
NOBD is birdseye

Nailhead gives an impression of square grid (horizontal & vertical) rather than round eyes in a diagonal fashion like birdseye. IIRC, the fresco that Manton posted in the past was nailhead
post #4708 of 11667
Update on the custom runs; selecting a shade of blue from samples to replace black in fresco 0510, the overcheck will be removed (apologies to those that are hoping for it), 3-ply is ruled out based on opinions of this forum, still a question of weight for the 2-ply, either 8-9 or 10-11 (experienced fresco wearers please feel free to comment on the day-to-day difference)

Nailhead fresco is possible and under consideration to be done after the AFB POW, grey shade will be either 0500 or 0501

Things are looking promising, will keep the updates coming, please keep the comments and suggestions coming
post #4709 of 11667
There's no 3ply in 8/9? In any event I am all for 8/9.
post #4710 of 11667
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Originally Posted by Slickman View Post

Update on the custom runs; selecting a shade of blue from samples to replace black in fresco 0510, the overcheck will be removed (apologies to those that are hoping for it), 3-ply is ruled out based on opinions of this forum, still a question of weight for the 2-ply, either 8-9 or 10-11 (experienced fresco wearers please feel free to comment on the day-to-day difference)
Nailhead fresco is possible and under consideration to be done after the AFB POW, grey shade will be either 0500 or 0501
Things are looking promising, will keep the updates coming, please keep the comments and suggestions coming

I would go with 8/9 oz, I think 10/11 oz is much too heavy for warmer months. Are you making AFB first and then the gray one?
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