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post #4396 of 12223
Frank had told me the same thing when I was in the shop, but I was curious as I've seen it both ways. I was picture browsing and missed the conversation, thanks for the clarification.
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Originally Posted by poorsod View Post

I made the coat with the apex pointing down for these reasons:
1) Frank felt a nap to the cloth and thought that the intended direction was for the apex to point down.
2) I contacted the weaver and he said that it was indeed woven with the apex pointed down so to better resemble barleycorn. The weaver also said that the coat could be made in either direction.
3) Manton thought the correct direction was for the apex to point down.

For whatever reason I had the idea that the "correct" direction was facing up, but at the end of the day its a beautiful coat and I don't think it makes that much of a difference either way, wear it in good health
post #4398 of 12223
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For whatever reason I had the idea that the "correct" direction was facing up, but at the end of the day its a beautiful coat and I don't think it makes that much of a difference either way, wear it in good health
yeah that was my assumption before seeing that coat at Ercoles. It looked great so it made me curious. I wasn't sure if there was a "correct" answer or not, but either way I'm a fan and will likely be putting in an order soon.
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You have to think about it the way barley or wheat stalks would grow. Though you might assume they peak and have an apex, if those triangles stacked on one another, it would produce an obelisk-shaped grain of wheat, which doesn't make sense. With the inverted triangle or V-shape, the notches fit into one another and the "stalk" fans slightly upward, with the widest point at its base. The tip of the wheat does terminate in an apex, but if you look at the rest of the segments beneath it, they are two to the side, one below (i.e. a V), repeated downward.
 

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Do you have their E-mail address handy? I can't find it online but if they allow individual orders I'd be very interested.

I can arrange a Smiths order on your behalf. Might be able to get you a small discount.
post #4401 of 12223
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You have to think about it the way barley or wheat stalks would grow. Though you might assume they peak and have an apex, if those triangles stacked on one another, it would produce an obelisk-shaped grain of wheat, which doesn't make sense. With the inverted triangle or V-shape, the notches fit into one another and the "stalk" fans slightly upward, with the widest point at its base. The tip of the wheat does terminate in an apex, but if you look at the rest of the segments beneath it, they are two to the side, one below (i.e. a V), repeated downward.

That's some next level shit. I like it.
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You have to think about it the way barley or wheat stalks would grow. Though you might assume they peak and have an apex, if those triangles stacked on one another, it would produce an obelisk-shaped grain of wheat, which doesn't make sense. With the inverted triangle or V-shape, the notches fit into one another and the "stalk" fans slightly upward, with the widest point at its base. The tip of the wheat does terminate in an apex, but if you look at the rest of the segments beneath it, they are two to the side, one below (i.e. a V), repeated downward.

 

Sprout would know a lot about barley and wheat. biggrin.gif
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I can arrange a Smiths order on your behalf. Might be able to get you a small discount.

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I can arrange a Smiths order on your behalf. Might be able to get you a small discount.

Keen on this!
post #4405 of 12223
Likewise for any cloth from Minnis/Hardy/Josiah France and WBill.

And I promise not to charge 100 GBP/m for the privilege of a "limited edition" cloth (considering price per m of a 65m length cloth commission would be 20-30 GBP /m) !
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Does Ercole's have a house style? Sorry if this is a hijack but since we were on the subject w/r/t to poorsod's barleycorn number...
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Sprout would know a lot about barley and wheat. biggrin.gif

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post #4408 of 12223
Actually, I think this whole discussion about 'house-style' is somewhat ironic, because ideally, a tailor should be able to have a coat fit on you properly without looking to some house-style if it doesn't work for the customer. Some have said that Ercoles tend to cut a more Italian silhouette, but others have had English-looking coats from him. Best bet would be to call him, or see pictures of his suits in the wild.
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I can arrange a Smiths order on your behalf. Might be able to get you a small discount.

I'm keen on this too!
post #4410 of 12223
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Does Ercole's have a house style?

I would check out this thread here. I just got done my first suit with Frank, if you have any questions feel free to PM me.

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