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post #17731 of 19908
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Originally Posted by Concordia View Post


The lightweight Fresco is a totally different animal, for better or worse. That and the light Finmeresco are much less scratchy.

 

I'll bear that in mind.

 

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Originally Posted by Concordia View Post

The 10oz is coarse enough to look like flannel, and can do damage to the knees in hot weather. The 8-9oz is almost tropical consistency-- much cooler, finer and smoother, albeit less durable.

 

I can attest to the sandpaper qualities of 10/11oz Fresco.

 

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Yeah, as Concordia said, the 8/9 is very different.  I suggest trying it unlined, if you ever go places hot and humid.

I was kidding too.

 

Should I ever commission something from the 8/9oz I will consider that. I can always have a drop-in lining added later (as I have done with my heavier Fresco).

 

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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

you guys are so precious with your sensitive knees.

 

Hey! I'm a sensitive guy. My knees are pretty rugged compared to, uh, the rest of me. :)

post #17732 of 19908
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Originally Posted by emptym View Post
 

I was kidding too.

 

Oh. I guess that means I should cancel my order for flannel shorts with extended pockets that I placed yesterday.:embar:

post #17733 of 19908
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Originally Posted by Andy57 View Post

Oh. I guess that means I should cancel my order for flannel shorts with extended pockets that I placed yesterday.shog%5B1%5D.gif

But did you put cuffs on them?
post #17734 of 19908
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Originally Posted by archibaldleach View Post


But did you put cuffs on them?


As a matter of fact, I did specify cuffs, you know, going with the StyFlow, as it were. Two-inch cuffs at that!

post #17735 of 19908
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Originally Posted by Concordia View Post

The 10oz is coarse enough to look like flannel, and can do damage to the knees in hot weather. The 8-9oz is almost tropical consistency-- much cooler, finer and smoother, albeit less durable.


Much appreciated (same to everyone else who chimed in).

post #17736 of 19908

I live in an extremely hot and humid climate, and have a couple of pairs of the heavier Fresco trousers.  They might be a little unpleasant if not lined to the knee, but breathe brilliantly.  Yes, you feel the weight, but never get that sticky sweaty awfulness that, say, supposedly summery cotton slacks can give.  Highly recommended from my side.  They also hang and keep a crease brilliantly, even in ridiculous climatic conditions.  I am also a turn-ups man - perhaps that helps them stay crisp looking.

post #17737 of 19908
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post
 

I live in an extremely hot and humid climate, and have a couple of pairs of the heavier Fresco trousers.  They might be a little unpleasant if not lined to the knee, but breathe brilliantly.  Yes, you feel the weight, but never get that sticky sweaty awfulness that, say, supposedly summery cotton slacks can give.  Highly recommended from my side.  They also hang and keep a crease brilliantly, even in ridiculous climatic conditions.  I am also a turn-ups man - perhaps that helps them stay crisp looking.


My 10-11 ounce ones are nice in the heat (as nice as trousers can be, I suppose!) and they do keep a crease pretty well. Cape Town's humidity isn't terrible and it does benefit from at least some breeze, but when it's pushing triple digits (Fahrenheit), you need all the help you can get.

post #17738 of 19908
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Originally Posted by gs77 View Post

I used to go to Garrison, but last suit I did, I went to guy that works for Ermanno Clothing, his name is Pablo. I am really happy with him, and will work with him from now on.

Thanks for the response. I sent you a PM.
post #17739 of 19908
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Originally Posted by DavidLane View Post
 

I am looking for a wool cloth to make up some trousers that are the summer equivalent to flannels. 

DL-

 

 

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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

Just do fresco. Closest thing you'll get to looking like flannel. 

He doesn't want cloth that looks like flannel, he wants the equivalent of a summer cloth that can be worn as odd trousers with the versatility of a flannel trouser but doesn't look like a suiting cloth. A trouser you can wear with a shirt, a sweater or a jacket.

 

You ruled out plain/panama weave but this might be the best choice. It has a bit more texture than tropical worsteds. Take a look at Harrison's Frontier Book

 

You could also consider high twist cloth if you can find it.

 

 

Summer weight twills, 8/9 ounce are available

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The plain solids in the VBC Super 110's make good trousers but may render a worsted suit look. Depends on the cloth vendor. Some of their cloths have a good amount of mottling than make them appear more casual than the plain finish but aren't in every sample book. Biggest selection is in the World Of Plains book from United Silks & Woolens

 

Check the solids in the Draper's Mohair and Two Ply book. They have an interesting weave/texture you don't see everyday. Making a suit in the medium dark grey at present but you could make trousers and not assume it was meant to wear as a suiting

 

 

I like twils for trousers. Whipcord, cavalry twills etc.  I would like to take a look at summer weight twills.

Could you let me know which merchant/mill/book to take a look?  Thank you.

post #17740 of 19908

Has anyone had experience with Harrison's Oyster Bunch? I am looking for a navy fabric for suiting, but I see very different shades of blue from pictures on their website versus pictures from Merino Brothers.

 

For example, 75712 on Merino brothers:

 

 

75712 on Harrison's website:

 

 

More extreme examples on 75765

 

Merino brothers:

 

Harrison's website:

 

post #17741 of 19908
Both of the swatches in the swatch book look great but if I saw the second picture I wouldnt be as excited.

Im guessing the one in the swatch book is overexposed and the other is underexposed
post #17742 of 19908
Call them and ask for swatches. They have a phone number on the website.
post #17743 of 19908
You'll have to get swatches through one of Harrison's distributors (they won't send out swatches directly anymore -- or at least they're not supposed to). In the US, that would be Isles Textiles in NY.

http://www.islestextilegroup.com/

FWIW, I have a suit made from Oyster 75714 and it's a little less blue than what Harrison's shows for 75712 in that photo you posted. It's a nice color if you want something conservative.
post #17744 of 19908
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Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post

You'll have to get swatches through one of Harrison's distributors (they won't send out swatches directly anymore -- or at least they're not supposed to). In the US, that would be Isles Textiles in NY.

http://www.islestextilegroup.com/

FWIW, I have a suit made from Oyster 75714 and it's a little less blue than what Harrison's shows for 75712 in that photo you posted. It's a nice color if you want something conservative.

Isle Textiles being the worst experience I have had in buying my own fabric...

 

I ordered 2 meters of brown donegal to have a jacket made up and when it arrived, it had a 10 inch tear in the middle of it. Not a cut, a jagged tear right in the middle. I called them to let them know and they said, "yeah, we know, but you can just cut around it". Wouldnt send me a replacement piece, refused to refund me after I sent the fabric back and never denied they sent me damaged goods. It got so bad I actually had to dispute it with my credit card company. Really nasty people to deal with in my admittedly limited experience.

post #17745 of 19908
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Originally Posted by leschnitzel View Post

Has anyone had experience with Harrison's Oyster Bunch?
Apart from any questions about the colors and the suppliers, Oyster is a good bunch. A little beefier and less refined than Lesser 13oz, but serving much the same market. If you decide that you like the patterns and want a midweight/winter worsted with some guts, it is a very decent choice.
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