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post #17401 of 19906
I think while fresco might not be optimal, it can easily stand in as an SC.

Obviously, if you have the means for both, than have at it...but I don't consider fresco "wrong" for an SC.
post #17402 of 19906
Don't understand why anyone would be opposed to Fresco for a sport coat. I use mine all the time.
post #17403 of 19906
Was the FNB fight about fresco being the sanitation workers Sunday best before your time?
post #17404 of 19906
Yes, but I have since gone back and read the infamous and glorious back and forth on the matter lol.
post #17405 of 19906
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Originally Posted by poorsod View Post

Was the FNB fight about fresco being the sanitation workers Sunday best before your time?

that was hopsack

post #17406 of 19906

The cloth has such a harsh/coarse worsted finish that doesn't say "sport coat" to me. It lacks the character of a cloth that  is worn as a sport coat/odd jacket and  would render first as an orphaned suit jacket. The only one that comes close is the old 520 color due to the mottled coloring.

 

Hopsack and basket weaves from sport coat books with a softer hand say/read sport coat in a better way.

 

Fresco is sort of an internet phenomena. 

post #17407 of 19906
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Originally Posted by bry2000 View Post

That is essentially what I have, but with white MOP buttons for more of a Spring/Summer look. No one in real life has ever criticized my fabric choice.

What is this 'real life' you speak of? confused.gif
post #17408 of 19906

i read that thread, but maybe not knowing some of the characters, it didn't resonate with me.  Calling someone a sanitation worked b/c they wear a fresco SC isn't the type of thing i could relate to.

post #17409 of 19906
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Originally Posted by Despos View Post

The cloth has such a harsh/coarse worsted finish that doesn't say "sport coat" to me. It lacks the character of a cloth that  is worn as a sport coat/odd jacket and  would render first as an orphaned suit jacket. The only one that comes close is the old 520 color due to the mottled coloring.

Hopsack and basket weaves from sport coat books with a softer hand say/read sport coat in a better way.

Fresco is sort of an internet phenomena. 

Agreed.

I'm considering converting my patch pocketed navy blue fresco jacket into a regular welt and flap pockets jacket as I never use it as an odd jacket.
post #17410 of 19906
Quote:
 Agreed.

I'm considering converting my patch pocketed navy blue fresco jacket into a regular welt and flap pockets jacket as I never use it as an odd jacket.

If there is a wedge cut under the patch pocket, you cannot transition to flap pockets. Look inside the patch; if you see a horizontal strip of lining, that is the wedge cut. Lining is used to cover the cut. If no cut was done it is possible to covert but a pain to do.

post #17411 of 19906
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Originally Posted by Despos View Post

If there is a wedge cut under the patch pocket, you cannot transition to flap pockets. Look inside the patch; if you see a horizontal strip of lining, that is the wedge cut. Lining is used to cover the cut. If no cut was done it is possible to covert but a pain to do.

Whoops. I was being purely aspirational in my statement.

I'm going to assume the wedge cut is there (and that I'm screwed)
post #17412 of 19906

unless the cut is high enough or the flap/pocket is placed low enough to cover the cut. Regardless, the cut will always be there.

 

Another option is to replace the side panel if you have the cloth. That would be the equivalent of starting anew. All options are ambitious and labor intensive but if it's a new jacket with low mileage, it would keep you from wasting the jacket from not wearing it

post #17413 of 19906

I don't think the comments were about fresco and sanitation workers...but rather if one had a "hopsack suit".

 

And I agree 100% with everything Despos said about fresco and its failures as an SC cloth. 

post #17414 of 19906

PCK1

Welcome to team Despos. 

 

Another misnomer from the internet is about wearing certain shades of grey with a blue jacket to avoid looking like a security guard. 

 

You might get that from a poor quality/finish of the cloth but the right cloth can look great in medium shades of grey. Classic and timeless. Just have to get the color tone correct

post #17415 of 19906
Few here in the fresco debate have distinguished between the different weights. As the weight goes up, so too does the scale/chunkiness of the fresco weave

From the dozen or so Minnis swatches I have:

9-10 oz: This is the lightweight stuff everyone loves. Small weave. I would feel fine wearing a navy fresco blazer from a blazersuit (convenience travelling), but I would probably look to other weights or a hopsack if you want something in a different color

10-11 oz: This stuff actually looks pretty casual. Weave is chunkier than 9-10 oz. Air Force Blue (Minnis 520) would make a nice SC

15-16 oz: Now we're talking. This is chunky stuff. Definitely fine for a SC
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